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Luke,
1) Yes, this will be 40% of the gross above grade wall area and not above +
below.
Mike is checking with the envelope subcommittee regarding the reply to points
2,3. We'll get back to you soon about those
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 17 Oct 2014 at 12:39
We're still waiting on ESC's reply on points 2,3. For now we can go with this-
All semi-exterior walls are included in the gross-above grade wall calculation
-Walls separating conditioned/semi-conditioned from unconditioned would count
as semi-exterior envelope and would be included in the gross above-grade walls.
-So any windows in the walls separating conditioned/semi conditioned from
unconditioned, like the parking garage example, would be included in the WWR
calculation.
To answer your specific questions-
2) Provide definition of gross above grade wall area which clarifies the
the following:
a) are demising walls included - No demising walls are not included in gross above grade wall area calculation
b) are walls which enclose unconditioned space included - No, walls which enclose unconditioned space are not included in gross above grade wall area calculation
c) are walls which enclose semi-conditioned space included - yes, these are included
d) are walls which separate semi-conditioned space from conditioned
space included - Not in gross above grade wall area calculation
e) are walls located in below grade parking garages which enclose
conditioned spaces (i.e. stair shafts) included. Yes these are included since they could have windows in them.
3) Are windows enclosing unconditioned and/or semi conditioned space included
in the total window area for this calculation - Windows enclosing semi-conditioned spaces will be included in total window area calculations. Windows enclosing unconditioned spaces would not be included in total window area calculation.
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 20 Oct 2014 at 11:55
Supria -
I was a bit confused by your response, but I just realized that the term
'demising' partition may mean different things to different people. For the
purposes of the T-24 Standards, a demising wall is a wall that separates
conditioned from unconditioned enclosed space (i.e. semi-exterior). It seems
that this may be different from the commonly held (internet) definition, which
is a surface which separates tenants.
Aside from the demising wall question, I think the guidance above is clear
enough to implement in the CBECC tool.
Original comment by lu...@360-analytics.com
on 21 Oct 2014 at 9:10
Hold off on this implementation. I expecting something back from the envelope
subcommittee shortly (likely later today). The complication is that the WWR is
supposed to be determined separately for each space conditioning category
(residential conditioned, non-residential conditioned, and res and non res
semi-heated).
Original comment by bikerose...@gmail.com
on 21 Oct 2014 at 9:17
Copying Mike's response below-
Calculating Wall Area-
- Nonres above grade exterior wall area = the gross above grade wall area for
nonresidential conditioned space only includes those walls that separate
nonresidential conditioned spaces from the exterior,
- Res above grade exterior wall area= the gross wall area for residential
conditioned space only includes those wallsthat separate residential
conditioned spaces from the exterior, and
- Semi exterior above grade wall area = the gross wall area for semiheated
space includes (a) those walls that separate nonresidential conditioned space
from unconditioned space and those walls that separate residential conditioned
space from unconditioned space, and (b) all of the walls that enclose
semiheated space (again, regardless of whether those walls are adjacent to the
exterior, or adjacent to an unconditioned space, or adjacent to a conditioned
space).
Hence- Semi-exterior wall area = area of exterior walls surrounding
semi-heated spaces + area of demising walls between semi-heated and conditioned
space + area of demising walls between semi-heated and unconditioned + area of
demising walls between conditioned and unconditioned.
Calculating Window Area-
WWRnon-res = window area in exterior walls enclosing non-res conditioned spaces
/ gross area of above grade exterior walls enclosing non-res conditioned spaces
WWRres = window area in exterior walls enclosing res conditioned spaces / gross
area of above grade exterior walls enclosing non-res conditioned spaces
WWRsemi-ext = window area in semi-exterior walls / gross area of above grade
semi-exterior walls
Each of the 3 WWR described above are calculated separately, and each must be
40% or below in the baseline.
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 22 Oct 2014 at 11:52
The same approach would also be used to calculate gross roof area and skylight
area for each space conditioning category. The 3 skylight roof ratios will be
calculated separately and each must be 5% or below in the baseline
Original comment by supriya....@pnnl.gov
on 23 Oct 2014 at 10:06
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
lu...@360-analytics.com
on 15 Oct 2014 at 9:30