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This looks fine, and included in the current ACM language for v3a.
We could change the exception for the parking garage daylighting requirement to
match the Standards, as you suggest. I would support that.
EXCEPTION 2 to Section 130.1(d)3: The total combined general lighting power in
the primary sidelit
daylight zones is less than 60 watts.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 19 Nov 2014 at 10:25
The 'Input Restrictions' and 'Standard Design' portions of the language
suggested in comment 1 above were adopted in ACM v4.4, however the 'Existing
Buildings' portion was left out.
Furthermore, ACM v4.5 seems to have reverted back to the original, which does
not adequately represent requirements in residential spaces, parking garages,
existing buildings or the proposed design.
Updating status to 'Discussion' and priority to 'Critical'
Original comment by lu...@360-analytics.com
on 5 Mar 2015 at 2:06
Lukas and team,
See a few minor comments and changes. In general I agree with everything Lukas
proposed. Personally I think we should not model DL in the parking garage,
since it is mandatory, and since it is unnecessarily complex to model "daylight
transition zones", "parking ramps" and parking garage geometry for this. If we
do model it, we could use the 60W threshold for parking garage lighting.
Thanks, John
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 5 Mar 2015 at 6:33
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I'll address the Parking Garage Daylighting Controls in this comment:
'Parking Garage Area Dedicated Ramps' and 'Parking Garage Area Daylight
Transition Zones' are existing SpaceFunctions, so no complexity in excluding
these spaces from the daylighting requirements, as long as they're modeled as
separate spaces.
Please keep in mind that the rules, as described in the suggested language are
already in place, so from a development perspective, there is little utility in
modifying the approach to reduce complexity.
Note that I went with a 120W minimum threshold for parking garages, rather than
60W to simplify the rules. I would prefer to keep this simplification, unless
the team has strong feelings otherwise.
Original comment by lu...@360-analytics.com
on 5 Mar 2015 at 8:23
ddress John's comments on Daylighting Requirements for Existing Buildings (see
word doc attached above) in this comment:
I agree with John's suggestion that increases in space area and/or window area
WITHOUT modifications to the lighting system should not trigger daylighting
requirements, and I believe this is consistent with the current rules.
The current rule functionality is based on the following logic - developed
between John and myself last may, and documented in Issue 511:
- When lighting status is 'Existing' - control requirements same as Proposed
Design
- When lighting status in 'New' - control requirements same as for New
Construction
- When lighting status is 'Altered'
-IF installed LPD<=85% of standard design LPD: ctrl. req. same as Proposed
Design
-IF installed LPD>85% of standard design LPD: ctrl. req. same as New Const.
There is one major area where this approach deviates from the standards. The
decision on whether daylighting controls are required is based on the Space
Status. In cases where some lighting fixtures in a space are new or altered
and some are existing, the standards say that the daylighting control
requirements only apply to the New and Altered fixtures, but not to the
existing fixtures. The rules do not currently make this distiction - rather if
ANY of the fixtures are new or altered, the daylighting control requirements
are applied to the Entire Space.
Before refining the ACM language on Daylighting Control Requirements for
Existing Buildings, I want to make sure that the above deviation is acceptable
to the team.
Original comment by lu...@360-analytics.com
on 5 Mar 2015 at 8:38
Lukas, thanks for the update. I think the area that deviates (how an alteration
where only some fixtures are altered in a space) can be treated as we are
handling it in CBECC-Com, since we do not want to track individual luminaires.
Someone can always use a prescriptive approach for alterations as well.
I also wanted to see how this scenario would work: if there is a space
conversion from warehouse to retail, I want to see if the software allows for
the user to define a NEW space type for the altered space, in which case the
prescriptive/ App5.4A limits would apply for the retail space.
Original comment by JohnJArent
on 5 Mar 2015 at 10:26
Thanks John,
Will you be drafting updated language to reflect the existing building
daylighting requirements logic below?
With regard to your second question, I'm not sure I fully understand the
scenario, but in my understanding - a change in occupancy type is treated like
any other alteration. The new/altered/existing status of each component is
what triggers the baseline performance for that component.
Original comment by lukasho...@gmail.com
on 6 Mar 2015 at 12:21
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