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IES - error overlapping surfaces etc #922

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Can you help with these errors please (error 26). Model and error log attached. 
I told her about the non convex surface issue and that you are looking into it. 
She is using VE2014FP2 and CBECC V3.

Error: Division by zero evaluating rule: Set SIZING_BASELINE Story:VentMult 
(53:'Building-AirBalance.rule' line 503)
I looked up the ruleset – do I need to add more exhaust flow to the Proposed 
model?

Error: Table look-up failed: SpaceFunctionGroups:AvailSchRef( 
FuncGroup='UNDEFINED' ) | ERROR: Table row match not found evaluating rule: Set 
SIZING_BASELINE ThrmlZn:ExhAvailSchRef (59:'HVACSecondary-ScheduleGroups.rule' 
line 770)
I looked up the ruleset – where do I assign the FuncGroup, and what is it 
assigned to?

1: DetermineShadowingCombinations: There are 10 surfaces which are casting 
surfaces and are non-convex.
8: DetermineShadowingCombinations: There are 23 surfaces which are receiving 
surfaces and are non-convex.
                Please provide guidance on the rules for surfaces – why is it a problem if they are non-convex (and how is that defined?), is the problem that they are non-convex or that they are casting/receiving?

9: GetDetailedDaylighting: Fraction of Zone controlled by the Daylighting 
reference points is < 1.0.
..discovered in "Daylighting:Controls" for Zone="L12 BLDG 3 4", only 0.61 of 
the zone is controlled.
                Please provide guidance on how to address this message – I checked ‘100% controlled’ on the space data box and most of these spaces have close to 100% window wall ratio

17: Base surface does not surround subsurface (CHKSBS), Overlap 
Status=Partial-Overlap
The base surround errors occurred 1 times.
Surface "P3000018_W34" overlaps SubSurface "P3000018_W3-W0"
This error message repeats 136 times! Please provide guidance on what it 
means..? I don’t have any spaces overlapping, but I do have some that are 
U-shaped around other zones (eg U-shaped office space around a central elevator 
core) is this causing the problem?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by f.le...@gmail.com on 26 Jan 2015 at 10:30

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
This model has a number of problems.  One of the issues below, however, is due 
to a bug in the v3a software.  When buildings have parking garage spaces, this 
bug caused a error in specifying the baseline HVAC system.  This bug has been 
fixed in v3b(Beta).  In order to avoid this issue, I ran the model using the 
latest developer version of the model, and got a number of error messages in 
the log file.  

1.  Warning: AirSystem 'AH-1A1B2' is Type = 'VAV', but the ControlMethod for Fan 
'AH1A RETURN FAN' is not 'VariableSpeedDrive'.  – The supply fan is variable 
speed, but the return fan is constant speed.  I am unsure how this 
configuration will affect the simulation.  This warning is repeated for 
AirSystem 'AH-3A3B4'.
2.  Error:  AirSystem 'P1 GAR EXH' is a parking garage ventilation/exhaust 
system with 'COControl', but the ControlMethod for Fan 'GEF-1' is not 
'VariableSpeedDrive'.  This is an error that must be corrected either by 
removing the COControl or making the fan variable speed.  This error is 
repeated for systems 'P3L2 GAR EXH', 'P2 GAR EXH', and 'PL3 GAR EXH'.
3.  There are 26 thermal zones with the following error, Error:  ThermalZone 'P1 
Office' has a design exhaust flow > 0, but the system fan power of exhaust 
system 'AH-1C EXH' is 0.  I recommend removing exhaust flow from zones unless 
specific exhaust fans are being specified.  In those cases, the fan properties 
(flow, static pressure, efficiencies) need to be specified.  
4.  Error:  ThermalZone 'L13 PHOUSE 1 2' is 'Unconditioned' but is served by a 
Primary or Ventilation system with heating and/or cooling; this is not 
currently permitted.  This error is repeated for zone 'L13 PHOUSE 3 4'.  
5.  Error:  The minimum design occupancy of ThermalZone 'P1 Garage Support' is 
greater than 25 people/1000ft2, the ventilation system 'AH-3C' has an 
economizer, and if is a multizone system, 'DDCToZone' control. Therefore, 
'CO2Sensor' ventilation control (DCV) is likely mandatory for this zone.  This 
can be corrected by changing the ventilation Control Method to CO2Sensors.  
However, the occupancy seems quite high for this space type, and reducing it 
will also correct this error.  This error is repeated for zones 'P2 Garage 
Support', 'P2 Office', and 'L3 Bldg 3 4'. 
6.  Warning:  Total min. primary air flow of terminal units served by Fan 'AH1A 
SUPPLY FAN' is 59293.0, which is greater than the fan min. flow, 0.0.  The fan 
minimum flow should be increased to meet the required minimum.  This warning is 
repeated for fans 'AH1C SUPPLY FAN', 'AH3B SUPPLY FAN' and 'AH3C SUPPLY FAN'. 
7.  Warning:  Total design exhaust flow for zones served by system 'P1 GAR EXH' 
is 37538, which is greater than the system exhaust capacity, 36788.4.  These 
values should be corrected to be consistent.  This warning is repeated for 
systems 'P3L2 GAR EXH', 'P2 GAR EXH', 'PL3 GAR EXH', 'STAIR EXH BLDG 1 2', 
'STAIR EXH BLDG 3 4', 'AH-1A1B2 EXH', 'AH-1C EXH', 'AH-3A3B4 EXH' and 'AH-3C 
EXH'.
8.  Warning:  In Space 'L12 TENANT_L5000055', Skylit Daylighting Control Point: 
Illuminance Set Point (0 lux ) is below minimum recommended for space type (75 
lux ).  This issue recurs for five additional spaces, some with setpoints of 50 
lux.
9.  Warning:  Space 'P2 LOBBY_P2000006' has 7720 ft2 in the primary sidelit 
daylit zone, but has 0 W of installed lighting assigned to the primary sidelit 
daylit zone.  The lighting power in the primary sidelit daylighting zone needs 
to be corrected (user input of 0 watts).  This issue recurs for 64 additional 
spaces.  
10. Warning:  The ratio of minimum ventilation (outside) air to exhaust air 
flow for BuildingStory 'P1' is < 1.0, indicating there is a flow imbalalance.  
For every building story, the total exhaust flow must be less than or equal to 
the minimum ventilation rate.  
11. Warning:  ThermalZone 'P1 Office' design ventilation flow is less than the 
NACM minimum required flow for the zone.  The minimum ventilation flow for the 
zone must meet NACM requirements.  This issue also occurs for zones 'P1 Garage 
Support', 'P2 Garage Support', 'P2 Office', and 'L3 Bldg 3 4'.  

Other issues observed with the model were that is a chilled water system with 
chillers and cooling towers, but there are no cooling coils.  

Three of the fluid systems, CHW Loop, HW Loop and CW Loop have multiple primary 
supply and primary return fluid segments.  Configurations like this are not 
known to simulate correctly (nor do I know that they will not).  I recommend 
that only one each primary supply and primary return fluid segments be assigned 
to each fluid system with only one pump (total )on the primary segments.  More 
than one pump can only be assigned to the fluid system for a primary loop or as 
children of the primary equipment (chiller, boiler, tower) instead of the one 
pump on the primary segments.

I believe that the message below about “Fraction of Zone controlled by the 
Daylighting reference points is < 1.0” is just a warning.  The zone in 
question includes many spaces, including Electrical, Mechanical, Telephone 
Rooms, so I am not surprised that less than 100% of the zone is daylit.  Also, 
since the simulation is performed using thermal zones where the data for the 
spaces are averaged into the thermal zone, only two daylighting control points 
are available to control the daylighting in all the spaces.  This is a 
limitation of EnergyPlus.  Adding thermal zones such that fewer spaces are 
included in each may improve daylight modeling, albeit at the expense of added 
simulation time.  

The issue with ‘Surface "P3000018_W34" overlaps SubSurface "P3000018_W3-W0" 
‘ has to do with a window not being completely within its parent surface.  
Looking at the polyloop coordinates for the surface and subsurface reveals that 
the two edges of the subsurface match edges of the surface.  It is safer if the 
window is defined to be clearly inside the wall surface, even if only by 1 in. 
(or 1 cm, if you prefer).  

Original comment by rhedr...@archenergy.com on 27 Feb 2015 at 12:43