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IES VE - error 10 #943

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I have a customer looking for an update on the error 10 message that the 
customer had with a large model, after I was told that it was caused by the 
size of the xml file. Would V3, a or b be capable of running something like 
this below.

We are working on a 30 story tower with 341 residential units for T24 
compliance. The mechanical engineer has selected Water Source Heat Pumps as the 
HVAC. The building envelope is a curtain wall system. The majority of the 
glazing is vision glazing but there are also some parts of it that are 
spandrel. The model we have so far is a block model with each floor set up as a 
thermal zone assigned a High-Rise Residential thermal template, apart from the 
corridor spaces which are separate zones. The model right now does not comply 
due to the total glazing area of the modeled building vs the standard building 
we are compared to. More specifically the proposed building has an 86% total 
glazing area vs 40% of the standard. For that reason we would like to model the 
building unit by unit, which would mean more than 341 thermal zones. Could you 
please help us by giving us some general guidance on how to do that to avoid 
errors in the simulation or the simulation to crash? There is the known issue 
(error 10) that CBECC-Com will not produce a Certificate if the xml output file 
is too large, so ultimately we will be needing to send you the model to produce 
the certificate for us. Apart from that, there are some more questions that we 
would like your support with, so we can wrap this model up as efficiently as 
possible:

They are also asking about how to model spandrel panels for T24 but I can draft 
a separate email for that if you wish.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by f.le...@gmail.com on 20 Feb 2015 at 5:55

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Version 3b will have a change to the way the AnalysisResults.xml file is 
written such that it is much smaller for a given project than that from v3a or 
previous.  

Regarding spandrel panels, there are a number of spandrel panel options in the 
material list, look under CodeCategory = “Spandrel Panels Curtain Walls.”

I’m not entirely clear on the benefit being gained by modeling the building 
with individual units as separate thermal zones.  Grouping multiple actual 
units into a single simulated thermal zone should work fine, particularly if 
they have similar orientations.  Using CBECC to model this building, I would 
use multipliers on floors and thermal zones on a floor to reduce the number of 
thermal zones that are actually simulated.  

Original comment by rhedr...@archenergy.com on 20 Feb 2015 at 4:30