Closed ravi-kumar-pilla closed 3 months ago
CircleCI Build fix - https://github.com/kedro-org/kedro-viz/pull/1819
This (as expected it seems) was a breaking change for any project using hooks or plugins and was non-trivial to chase down.
It also makes it less convenient for especially new users on a project needing this flag to start kedro viz; would we be open to considering ways to pass this option (now required for certain projects) by default (e.g. via project configuration) and/or more succinctly?
This (as expected it seems) was a breaking change for any project using hooks or plugins and was non-trivial to chase down.
It also makes it less convenient for especially new users on a project needing this flag to start kedro viz; would we be open to considering ways to pass this option (now required for certain projects) by default (e.g. via project configuration) and/or more succinctly?
Hi @brau0300 ,
Thank you for the comment. Ideally Kedro-Viz does not need any hook to start. Users should be able to do kedro viz run
without any issue. Having said that, could you please let us know the use case where you need a hook to be enabled for kedro viz to start ?
At this moment, we do not have any discussions on making this available via configuration of some sort. But we would be happy to hear from you the pain points and the issue this would solve for Kedro-Viz. Thank you
Apologies for the delayed response. We are using some kedro starters we've
developed to help medium-maturity users get going faster on projects. We
are using DataCatalog hooks in several projects and also kedro boot in
another (another framework that uses plugins/hooks)
https://github.com/takikadiri/kedro-boot ; in both cases the users now see
scary warning messages when they run kedro viz
with kedro viz 9 because
the hooks are needed to resolve parameters/datasets at runtime. We have
updated our readmes to use the new --include-hooks flag, but definitely
folks will now need to learn the new way of starting viz - not really a big
deal for folks who are comfortable/developing every day, but definitely
more words to type and different from how things were. Hopefully that helps
provide some context - not sure if there is a great solution, but hopefully
it's helpful to share an example of how the change in default behavior gets
perceived by users.
One other thing to mention as a wrinkle - we had our starters pinned to kedro viz 8, but mainline kedro dropping toposort now causes problems with newer versions of kedro mixed with kedro viz 8. We're tentatively thinking we keep kedro viz unpinned going forward, and have updated our instructions for new users to use the --include-hooks flag
On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 3:32 PM Ravi Kumar Pilla @.***> wrote:
This (as expected it seems) was a breaking change for any project using hooks or plugins and was non-trivial to chase down.
It also makes it less convenient for especially new users on a project needing this flag to start kedro viz; would we be open to considering ways to pass this option (now required for certain projects) by default (e.g. via project configuration) and/or more succinctly?
Hi @brau0300 https://github.com/brau0300 ,
Thank you for the comment. Ideally Kedro-Viz does not need any hook to start. Users should be able to do kedro viz run without any issue. Having said that, could you please let us know the use case where you need a hook to be enabled for kedro viz to start ?
At this moment, we do not have any discussions on making this available via configuration of some sort. But we would be happy to hear from you the pain points and the issue this would solve for Kedro-Viz. Thank you
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Hi @brau0300 ,
Thank you for the response. The idea behind ignoring hooks by default was to make Kedro-Viz faster and work towards https://github.com/kedro-org/kedro-viz/issues/1159 . I agree it is a breaking change, but the team decided to load Kedro-Viz with bare minimum of what it needs and users can opt in hooks if they want any additional functionality.
For the issue of dropping toposort
, this could have been avoided if Kedro-Viz refrained from using transitive dependencies. We have created a ticket to make Kedro-Viz better and avoid any such instances in future.
Thank you
Description
Resolves #1808
Development notes
--include-hooks
option to all the viz cli commands (run, build, deploy)--include-hooks
option to%run_viz
Jupyter line magic--ignore-plugins
option from viz cli commandsQA notes
--include-hooks
should appear as an option with -h (eg.,kedro viz run -h
)Checklist
RELEASE.md
file