"it doesn't burn more electricity than small nations"

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"it doesn't burn more electricity than small nations" #3400

Open infominer33 opened 5 years ago

infominer33 commented 5 years ago

I'm really falling in love with Keybase, want to promote it's use and see its success for years to come.

However It was raised to my attention today about some of the copy in the stellar wallet setup.

This jab at PoW is obvious stellar rhetoric, and is disingenuous, as you use the Bitcoin blockchain as an anchor, NOT stellar.

Removing that line from the wallet sign-up would be a great PR move.

https://twitter.com/michaelfolkson/status/1122476445035638784

Laurelai commented 5 years ago

But its factually true. Keybase doesnt burn more electricity than small nations.

infominer33 commented 5 years ago

yes, and public relations is all about conveying precise factual truth

point being, why alienate an otherwise naturally allied user-base?

junderw commented 5 years ago

Neither does Bitcoin.

The implied jab is all based on biased studies, and no one compares the electricity usage to the entire banking sector.

If we want to take implicit jabs here I've got one.

"Well, at least Bitcoin is not a security as defined by the SEC."

oh, what's that you say? "How dare I imply that a centralized coin be regulated as a security!" ?

why my graces I have implied no such thing my darlings!

Seems like I struck a nerve there, but for the record I have never explicitly stated XLM is a security.

Yeah, this post is of bad taste, just like the jab.

Come on.

Laurelai commented 5 years ago

It doesnt bother me, regulating finance is good, actually.

infominer33 commented 5 years ago

besides the point of why keybase would make itself harder to promote among one of the most likely userbases to sign up.

Laurelai commented 5 years ago

Mabey they deliberately dont want to be associated with bitcoin. Have you considered this a possibility?

Laurelai commented 5 years ago

Or mabey its just a joke and you need to lighten up

dmbr0 commented 5 years ago

How much energy does the banking sector consume with the gas it takes to get its employees to work every day? Building energy consumption? The energy embodied in building cars to get the people to the buildings? The energy consumed by data centers? How about the energy that isn't captured and converted to work on a daily basis? It's incomprehensible. I don't really mind that stellar is in the application but can we at least get some bitcoin tools?

junderw commented 5 years ago

Fixed in https://github.com/keybase/client/pull/17504

junderw commented 5 years ago

https://twitter.com/ofnumbers/status/1128866873318223872?s=09

Looks like Stellar should maybe use a little more electricity... :-/