bug(windows): Unable to type Malayalam using Mozhi in Premiere Pro CC 2022

[zcraber]

Mozhi keyboard version 3.2.3. Unable to type Malayalam in Premiere Pro CC 2022.

Here is a screen recording. I'm trying to type the words മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ്.

Edit: Please note that I'm actually editing a screen-recorded video in the project. Don't confuse it 'as' the keyboard.

Previously there used to be a South Asian and Middle Eastern setting in Premiere. Mozhi worked well with that. But Adobe introduced a Universal Text Engine in new versions.

[zcraber]

@beniza

[DavidLRowe]

From the documentation here: https://help.keyman.com/keyboard/mozhi_malayalam/3.2.3/mozhi_malayalam It seems that, for the desktop version of the keyboard, you can type malayaaLam Taippi-ng and get മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ്

I went to the https://keyman.com/keyboards/mozhi_malayalam page and used the "Use keyboard online" to try this out.

The mobile layout doesn't have the upper case letters, so some substitutions have to be made: malayaalham ttaippi-ng (that is, lh instead of L, tt instead of T) gives the same result: മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ് And this sequence also works on the desktop keyboard.

If this resolves your question, please close the issue. If it doesn't, please give more details about the problem. What sequence are you typing? What characters are not showing up as expected? Does this problem only show up in Premiere Pro CC? What font is being used? Thanks!

[mcdurdin]

It might be good to try copying and pasting Malayalam text in and out of Premiere Pro CC also, to try and determine if it is a problem with font display within the app, or if it is a compatibility issue with input.

[beniza]

That looks strange! Can you please try by typing "mala{pause for a sec}yALam" and see if that helps?

[zcraber]

It seems that, for the desktop version of the keyboard, you can type malayaaLam Taippi-ng and get മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ്

It's not that I don't know the mapping. I've been using Mozhi for some time now.

What sequence are you typing?

As I mentioned, I typed the words: മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ്.

What characters are not showing up as expected?

The entire words got messed up. മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ് became മലാളംിങ്.

Does this problem only show up in Premiere Pro CC?

Yes, so far I used Mozhi on a variety of programs without any issues.

What font is being used?

Baloo Chettan 2

[zcraber]

It might be good to try copying and pasting Malayalam text in and out of Premiere Pro CC also, to try and determine if it is a problem with font display within the app, or if it is a compatibility issue with input.

I tried that. Copying and pasting words into Premiere Pro works, but not the other way. The issue remains is I can't directly type in Premiere Pro CC.

I also tried the File > New > Legacy Title and I'm able to type with Mozhi. Here is a screenshot.

So, I guess it is something with the new Universal Text Engine.

[zcraber]

That looks strange! Can you please try by typing "mala{pause for a sec}yALam" and see if that helps?

Tried that. It didn't work. Here is how മലയാളം ടൈപ്പിങ് appears in the end:

I've attached a sample text only Premiere Pro project file here: mozhi.zip

[mcdurdin]

I tried that. Copying and pasting words into Premiere Pro works, but not the other way. The issue remains is I can't directly type in Premiere Pro CC.

I also tried the File > New > Legacy Title and I'm able to type with Mozhi. Here is a screenshot.

This all sounds like a compatibility issue with Premiere Pro CC, possibly to do with the way that they treat clusters in their new editor. I won't have time to look into this more deeply before the New Year, but I think the Keyman team can take this up and hopefully find a resolution with Adobe.

I'll transfer this to the Keyman repository, as it is not a problem specifically with the Mozhi keyboard.

[mcdurdin]

@zcraber Which specific version of Premiere Pro CC 2022 are you experiencing this issue on? I have tested on v22.6.3 and could not reproduce the problem. I also have not been able to reproduce the issue on Premiere Pro CC 2023 (v23.1).

[mcdurdin]

I have just tested on 22.3.1 and reproduced the problem there. So it looks like Adobe have resolved this problem in one of 22.4, 22.5 or 22.6. I'll close this issue, but please feel free to reopen if there are further issues in the newer releases.

[zcraber]

@mcdurdin I'm on Premiere Pro 23.1.0 and noticed that the issue is still there while typing certain letters.

For example, typing spee should give സ്പീ, but results in ീ. And typing ptham should give പ്തം, but results in തം.

[mcdurdin]

Testing here, I can reproduce this, yes.

സ്പീ

Notepad

Malayalam	Key	Unicode	Notes
സ്	s	0D38 0D4D
സ്പ്	sp	0D38 0D4D 0D2A 0D4D
സ്പെ	spe	0D38 0D4D 0D2A 0D46
സ്പീ	spee	0D38 0D4D 0D2A 0D40	1 x bksp has deleted 1 codepoint

Premiere Pro 23.1.0

Malayalam	Key	Unicode	Notes
സ്	s	0D38 0D4D
സ്പ്	sp	0D38 0D4D 0D2A 0D4D
സ്പെ	spe	0D38 0D4D 0D2A 0D46
സ്ീ	spee	0D38 0D4D 0D40	1 x bksp has deleted 2 codepoints (ERR)

പ്തം

Notepad

Malayalam	Key	Unicode	Notes
പ്	p	0D2A 0D4D
പ്റ്റ്	pt	0D2A 0D4D 0D31 0D4D 0D31 0D4D
പ്ത്	pth	0D2A 0D4D 0D24 0D4D	2 x bksp has deleted 2 codepoints
പ്ത	ptha	0D2A 0D4D 0D24
പ്തം	ptham	0D2A 0D4D 0D24 0D02

Premiere Pro 23.1.0

Malayalam	Key	Unicode	Notes
പ്	p	0D2A 0D4D
പ്റ്റ്	pt	0D2A 0D4D 0D31 0D4D 0D31 0D4D
ത്	pth	0D24 0D4D	2 x bksp has deleted 4 codepoints (ERR)
ത	ptha	0D24
തം	ptham	0D24 0D02

[mcdurdin]

Also reproduced in Premiere Pro 23.2.0

[mcdurdin]

I have reported this to our contacts at Adobe, will keep you posted.

[mcdurdin]

These sequences work correctly in Photoshop 24.2.0. So this may be corrected in an upcoming release of Premiere Pro; we will have to wait and see.