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Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 26 Dec 2011 at 7:59
Should the OI Notepad shortcuts be disabled for this version of Android, or
should the Android shortcuts be overridden?
Original comment by dkremov
on 4 Jan 2012 at 2:49
Best is to conform with standard Android shortcuts if they are available, so OI
Notepad shortcuts should be disabled or modified sensibly on ICS devices.
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 4 Jan 2012 at 3:12
So we need a platform check and if platform is 4 or higher, OI Notepad
shortcuts should be disabled, at least in the beginning. Later new shortcuts
can be created and applied for all platform, so people shouldn't be confused?
Original comment by dkremov
on 4 Jan 2012 at 5:29
I would suggest to switch shortcuts starting from API level 11 (Honeycomb -
Android 3.0) to new shortcuts.
All older shortcuts could stay as they are. People can learn new shortcuts when
they get a new device.
(If people request this, we could add a setting for using the new shortcuts
also on older versions - but I doubt there will be a large demand for it...)
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 5 Jan 2012 at 1:15
OK, then new shortcut keys should be created, like ctrl-S for Save to SD card
and so on, but you must specify them to me so I can change them, or if you want
I can try to think of suitable shortcut keys.
Original comment by dkremov
on 5 Jan 2012 at 7:30
Yes, please suggest suitable shortcut keys here so that we can discuss them :-)
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 5 Jan 2012 at 11:55
http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7184249
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 5 Jan 2012 at 11:58
CTRL-S to be changed to menu_save or better to menu_save_as, if not, then
menu_save_as can be changed to ctrl-W (as it is next to S and is not A or D,
which are taken)
the Settings to be accessed by CTRL-P (P for preferences) or just to be
removed, I doubt someone uses this particular shortcut.
As for CTRL-D, I think this option should be removed or a warning should be
displayed "note is about to be deleted, proceed?"
Original comment by dkremov
on 5 Jan 2012 at 12:37
You are right, let's remove rarely used shortcuts - which includes the
dangerous one for "delete" (the dialog exists already - by the way) and the one
for preferences (one could check whether settings/preferences have a shortcut
in other Google apps like the browser or Gmail...).
Ctrl-S for save would a a frequently used shortcut, I assume. Ctrl-W for "Where
to save" is also fine with me :-)
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 5 Jan 2012 at 1:38
OK, so for now, I must remove the delete shortcut and maybe the settings
shortcut? OH, I found a shortcut for Google Chrome for settings:
"Alt+F or Alt+E ------ Opens the wrench menu, which lets you customize and
control settings in Google Chrome."
Maybe CTRL+F or Alt+F as it is in Chrome?
Original comment by dkremov
on 5 Jan 2012 at 2:29
Another alternative is CTRL-O - O for Options?
Original comment by dkremov
on 5 Jan 2012 at 2:33
And I have a question, what is this number before the letter doing?
.setShortcut('*2*', 'x')
Original comment by dkremov
on 5 Jan 2012 at 2:43
Chrome for Android? This would be a good reference...
The number is for very low-end devices which use a numeric keypad only (and may
not even have touchscreen), so this is the number on the numeric keypad. This
could also be modified at this occasion if appropriate.
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 5 Jan 2012 at 3:11
No, it was for Windows, I can't seem to find its shortcuts in android. And
Gmail app doesn't have such a shorcut... So maybe we should use P or O? or just
remove key shortcut for settings?
Original comment by dkremov
on 5 Jan 2012 at 3:18
Ok, here are some shortcuts from the browser app in Android 3.2:
Ctrl-W: Delete tab <-- conflict with "save all"?
Ctrl-S: Share <-- conflict with "save"?
Ctrl-R: Reload
Ctrl-T: New tab
Ctrl-I: Zoom in
Ctrl-O: Zoom out
Ctrl-P: Preferences <--
Ctrl-A: Select all
Ctrl-C: Copy
The software keyboards ("Keyboard with Ctrl key" and "Hacker's Keyboard") I
tried out on Android 4.0 didn't respond to the Ctrl-key.
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 5 Jan 2012 at 9:30
Well, the browser app doesn't have save/save as, so we can safely set save and
save all in OI notepad to be Ctrl-S and Ctrl-W, as Ctrl-S is a well known
'save' shortcut. We can use Ctrl-P for preferences, as I wanted, the other
things are OK.
I am also unable to emulate the Ctrl key on Android emulator, and spent hours
yesterday trying to find a way to use the Ctrl key on the emulator. Neither
there is a soft CTRL key there, nor it responds to my hardware keyboard CTRL.
So maybe we should just find the built in text key shortcuts of Android 4 so
then I can set the shortcuts for Android 3+ as they should be in order to avoid
conflict.
Original comment by dkremov
on 6 Jan 2012 at 8:19
I found all android keyboard typing shortcuts (also noticed they say MENU, not
CTRL, so I will try to simulate the combinations on the emulator by clicking
and holding MENU with the mouse and pressing the needed key on the keyboard):
Android Keyboard Shortcuts: Typing
• Alt + Spacebar: Insert a special character
• Shift + Del: Delete the character to the right of the cursor
• Alt + Del: Delete an entire line
• Shift + Shift (press it twice): Activate caps-lock; press shift once more
to exit
• Alt + Trackball-Left: Move cursor to beginning of line
• Alt + Trackball-Right: Move cursor to end of line
• Alt + Trackball-Up: Move cursor to top of page
• Alt + Trackball-Down: Move cursor to bottom of page
• Shift + Trackball-Left/Right: Highlight text for cutting or copying
• Menu + X: Cut text (will cut all text on-screen unless specific characters
are highlighted)
• Menu + C: Copy text to clipboard (will copy all text on-screen unless
specific characters are highlighted)
• Menu + V: Paste text from clipboard
• Menu + A: Select all text in the current field
Original comment by dkremov
on 6 Jan 2012 at 10:29
I tested my theory regarding MENU+key and it proved to be right.
So, I want to ask - are we changing the problematic shortcuts for all platforms
(we remove the delete shortcut for all, yes?) or only for Android 3 and higher?
Original comment by dkremov
on 6 Jan 2012 at 11:22
I think it is better to change the shortcuts for all devices, as otherwise a
lot of new code will have to be added to prevent errors. Using
if(Build.VERSION.SDK_INT>=11)
causes a crash when you try to add a new note on devices API level lower than
11.
So the only way is to use Reflection -
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/backward-compatibility-for-androi
d.html
I think three shortcuts aren't worth it. I will try to find another way to
change the shortcuts depending on the platform version but..
After all, even for users the difference won't be significant as they will
still have to get used to new shortcuts on latter devices. The only difference
is that at the earlier platforms, they don't have conflicts with default
android shortcuts.
Original comment by dkremov
on 6 Jan 2012 at 2:55
Yes, then just change the shortcuts for all platform versions.
(By the way, here is a version of the Build class that works for all versions
from API level 2 to 15 which uses reflection:
http://code.google.com/p/openintents/source/browse/trunk/flashlight/Flashlight/s
rc/android/support/v2/os/Build.java
Just copy and paste that class into OI Notepad).
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 6 Jan 2012 at 6:34
Ok, shortcuts are changed. As for the class you showed, what shall I do with it?
Original comment by dkremov
on 6 Jan 2012 at 6:45
If you want to keep some shortcuts in the older version, include the class. If
you think it is better to remove them from all versions, don't include it. You
have the choice :-)
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 6 Jan 2012 at 7:21
Well, I uploaded a patch, it's with changed shortcuts for all versions which I
think is better, but I may tinker with the class, just for fun and to gain some
more experience :-)
Original comment by dkremov
on 6 Jan 2012 at 7:26
I think it is good to have the same shortcuts across all versions.
Please update your patch to include the other OI apps as well, so that the new
shortcuts are uniform across all OI apps.
Also, please provide a list of new shortcuts for each application so that we
can put this into a FAQ.
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 6 Jan 2012 at 9:54
Hm, I was sending replies earlier by email but those are apparently not being
added to the bug :-(
Anyway, the current Market version of Hacker's Keyboard didn't fully support
Ctrl outside of ConnectBot, I had discovered the odd OI Notepad behavior while
working on a newer version which fixed that, and confirmed with a hardware
Bluetooth keyboard. You can try v1.28rc19 (or later) from
http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list, but I'm also unable to
repeat it in the ICS emulator, just on the real device. Odd.
You mentioned earlier considering Ctrl-F for settings, I think it would be
better to reserve that for a "Find" function which would be more intuitive,
especially if you want to keep things consistent across apps.
Thanks for working on it!
Original comment by Klaus.We...@gmail.com
on 7 Jan 2012 at 8:36
OI NotePad
CTRL + S - Save
CTRL + W - Save As
Delete shortcut removed
CTRL + P - Preferences/Settings
OI Countdown
Changed a CTRL+S to CTRL+P (everywhere one shortcut for settings)
Removed the Delete shortcuts too.
OI File Manager
Changed again S to P for Settings. Also noticed that there was a conflict with
Include/Exclude Media Scan - they also use s for shortcut. Now it should be OK.
OI Safe (CategoryList.java)
DEL_CATEGORY_INDEX - removed the CTRL-D shortcut, following the policy of "no
delete shortcuts".
ADD_CATEGORY_INDEX - possible conflict with default Android shortcuts - CTRL+A.
No changes made, though, as I'm not absolutely sure it will conflict (not sure
if android's "select all" is callable there, if there is nothing to select)
OI Shopping List
Removed a delete shortcut. The other shortcuts look OK.
Well, these are the major OI apps, so I think that's it. Patch uploaded
Original comment by dkremov
on 7 Jan 2012 at 8:47
This issue was closed by revision r3996.
Original comment by peli0...@googlemail.com
on 7 Jan 2012 at 9:18
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
Klaus.We...@gmail.com
on 19 Dec 2011 at 9:31