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Very slow search function #2082

Closed roydok closed 3 years ago

roydok commented 4 years ago

Describe the bug Slow search function. Takesna minute or 2 and sometimes never for the search results to come out.

Expected behavior Quick search suggestion and results come out lile in the older 2.5 version

Steps to reproduce the behavior:

  1. Upgrade to the latest version 3.0 and above
  2. Use search
  3. Slow to no results

Environment

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@roydok Thank you for your bug report. Can you give one example of a search which takes two minutes to give results? Same question for a search giving no result at all?

roydok commented 4 years ago

Hi. Thank you very much for your quick reply. I tried moving the 35.8 gb off-line Wikipedia file from the 512 gb microSD card to my 128 gb internal storage. The search speed improved but still slower compared to the older Kiwix version 2.5. The older Kiwix version 2.5 has a fast search and search suggestion if your file is located in either the microSD card or internal storage. The current Kiwix version 3.3.1 only does fast search if the file is in the internal storage but super slow to no search in the microSD card. I am going to keep my file in the internal storage until this is improved.

Thank you again.

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kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@roydok This is great if it works better for you. That said, without clear and precise reproduction steps, we won't be able to work on this ticket and will close it.

macgills commented 4 years ago

I could maybe build an apk which is 2.5.0 but with latest kiwixlib and see if the slowdown is a result of kiwixlib or if it is the android app?

Otherwise I don't know how to diagnose this. Could it also be the age of the file? 32 gb Wikipedia off-line, knowing the date of this file wouldn't hurt anyways.

With a 2018-07-01 Wikipedia 77.2GB search is near instantaneous for me on a Galaxy Tab S running 6.0.1.

@roydok could you send a diagnostic report? The functionality can be found in the help screen of the app.

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@macgills I strongly suspect this was at a time and with a ZIM file without a title Xapian index. This is why I ask for a concrete up2date use case. I don't think this make sense to come back to 2.5.

roydok commented 4 years ago

Diagnostic sent as you requested. I transfered back the 35.8 gb off-line Wikipedia file back to my 512 microSD card and ran Kiwix version 3.3.1 doing the search and generating the diagnostic as you suggested. Search is still slow.

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:16 PM Seán Mac Gillicuddy, < notifications@github.com> wrote:

I could maybe build an apk which is 2.5.0 but with latest kiwixlib and see if the slowdown is a result of kiwixlib or if it is the android app?

Otherwise I don't know how to diagnose this. Could it also be the age of the file? 32 gb Wikipedia off-line, knowing the date of this file wouldn't hurt anyways.

With a 2018-07-01 Wikipedia 77.2GB search is near instantaneous for me on a Galaxy Tab S running 6.0.1.

@roydok https://github.com/roydok could you send a diagnostic report? The functionality can be found in the help screen of the app.

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roydok commented 4 years ago

Diagnostic sent

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:57 PM Roy Concepcion, roydok9111976@gmail.com wrote:

Diagnostic sent as you requested. I transfered back the 35.8 gb off-line Wikipedia file back to my 512 microSD card and ran Kiwix version 3.3.1 doing the search and generating the diagnostic as you suggested. Search is still slow.

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:16 PM Seán Mac Gillicuddy, < notifications@github.com> wrote:

I could maybe build an apk which is 2.5.0 but with latest kiwixlib and see if the slowdown is a result of kiwixlib or if it is the android app?

Otherwise I don't know how to diagnose this. Could it also be the age of the file? 32 gb Wikipedia off-line, knowing the date of this file wouldn't hurt anyways.

With a 2018-07-01 Wikipedia 77.2GB search is near instantaneous for me on a Galaxy Tab S running 6.0.1.

@roydok https://github.com/roydok could you send a diagnostic report? The functionality can be found in the help screen of the app.

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macgills commented 4 years ago

@roydok interesting.... your sdcard reports its filesystem as sdfat which I believe should not support files of this size.

roydok commented 4 years ago

Thank you very much.

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:00 AM Roy Concepcion, roydok9111976@gmail.com wrote:

Diagnostic sent

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:57 PM Roy Concepcion, roydok9111976@gmail.com wrote:

Diagnostic sent as you requested. I transfered back the 35.8 gb off-line Wikipedia file back to my 512 microSD card and ran Kiwix version 3.3.1 doing the search and generating the diagnostic as you suggested. Search is still slow.

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 11:16 PM Seán Mac Gillicuddy, < notifications@github.com> wrote:

I could maybe build an apk which is 2.5.0 but with latest kiwixlib and see if the slowdown is a result of kiwixlib or if it is the android app?

Otherwise I don't know how to diagnose this. Could it also be the age of the file? 32 gb Wikipedia off-line, knowing the date of this file wouldn't hurt anyways.

With a 2018-07-01 Wikipedia 77.2GB search is near instantaneous for me on a Galaxy Tab S running 6.0.1.

@roydok https://github.com/roydok could you send a diagnostic report? The functionality can be found in the help screen of the app.

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roydok commented 4 years ago

My microSD card is a Samsung Evo plus 512 gb. I used it as is and not reformatted it. I'll transfer the large 35.8 gb file back to the main internal storage to have a faster search in Kiwix version 3.3.1. Thank you very much for your time.

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@roydok https://github.com/roydok interesting.... your sdcard reports its filesystem as sdfat which I believe should not support files of this size.

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macgills commented 4 years ago

If you can reformat to exfat the sdcard I would recommend that? Honestly it shouldn't have been able to copy the files over at all if the filesystem does not support files of this size. We could have a flaw in our methodology for detecting filesystems, very few pieces of code are perfect.

roydok commented 4 years ago

I'll try to reformat the card tom and report back to you and send you the diagnostic. Thanks again for your help.

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If you can reformat to exfat the sdcard I would recommend that? Honestly it shouldn't have been able to copy the files over at all if the filesystem does not support files of this size. We could have a flaw in our methodology for detecting filesystems, very few pieces of code are perfect.

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macgills commented 4 years ago

Thank you for helping diagnose the problem, hopefully we can improve kiwix.

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@roydok @macgills What is the status here? How does it work with ve rsion 3.3.2 in beta an a recent ZIM file?

macgills commented 4 years ago

We have greatly improved performance with thread safe searches and also helped the memory footprint by disposing unused readers used for searching. I was never able to replicate 2 min searches as the search results appeared almost instantaneously for me

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

@macgills Those improvements that you mentioned were introduced in which version?

I am running v3.3.3 Build: 5230303 on my tablet and search is unbearably slow with the new wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2020-06.zim. By comparison, v2.5 and the 2016 English Wikipedia maxi, that I upgraded from, searched instantaneously.

After typing in "faceboo" it takes the app 20-25 seconds to return a list of results, which makes the app painful to use. Recently, another user described having the same issue.

What's interesting is that, after this initial delay, deleting characters from the end or appending characters updates the results far quicker (a second or 2 at most). This makes me wonder whether KiwiX is doing some sort of unnecessary, exhaustive searching upfront rather than solely focusing on getting results that start with "faceboo".

Beater34 commented 4 years ago
  1. Please forgive me if I should not post here, but I have the same slow search problem as roydok with Kiwix 3.3.3 and the 89GB Wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2020-06.zim. Searches for "facebook" and "Canberra" both took 90 seconds.
  2. I previously had rapid searches with Kiwix 2.5 and the 78GB Wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2018-06.zim.
  3. I have a Motorola G6 Plus phone (XT1926-5) running Android 9 (PPW529.116-11-23 1st May 2020) with a 256GB Samsung Evo Plus microSD card (Grade 3, Class 10) formatted exFAT. I can record 4K video with my phone and SD card (demonstrating good performance).
  4. I have sent a diagnostic from Kiwix.
  5. @macgills: (a) You get rapid searches with the 77GB 2018-07.zim, just as I got rapid searches with the 78GB 2018-10.zim – have you tried searching the 89GB 2020-06.zim (or a similar recent zim)? (b) Samsung Evo Plus microSD cards are shipped exFAT, and roydok cannot have FAT given that he loaded a 35.8GB file. (c) It seems a good idea to build an apk which is 2.5.0 but with the latest kiwixlib to see if the slowdown is the lib or the app.
  6. Hearty thanks to both kelson42 and roydok for helping.
macgills commented 4 years ago

@dbedrenko 3.3.3 includes our latest fixes to search and the latest version of kiwixlib.

I will attempt to reproduce the issue on my tablet but this will take a while as the download is quite large, right now it reports as 4 day left.

I think this issue is related to the zim file but @kelson42 may be able to speak with more clarity there.

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

I'm not able to reproduce the problem with my Google Pixel2. I believe the ZIM file to be correct. For the moment, I have actually no clue why on a few devices the search is that slow.

macgills commented 4 years ago

With the Pixel2 I doubt it has a sd card which seems to be a key component in this issue.

Beater34 commented 4 years ago

Yes, the problem is that Kiwix is very slow to search a recent ZIM file on an SD card - even when the SD card is high-speed.

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

Do let me know if I can help debug somehow. I have a rooted device, so you could give an .apk with whatever debug messages would be helpful to you. I could then upload this log file.

If it is not too difficult I could also access the device with a debugger? Via AndroidStudio or whatever (I'm not familiar with this environment). Not sure if this would be helpful, offering just in case.

macgills commented 4 years ago

Thank you very much for the offer but I think raw log inspection may not be very helpful unless I were to deliver you a version with enhanced search logging. I may yet do that and take you up on the offer if my own attempts to recreate the problem are fruitless.

Depending on your code/kotlin literacy I would invite you to look at SearchResultGenerator if you want an indepth understanding of the code.

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@macgills What might be great here to know is if the process get stuck inside or outside the libkiwix.

macgills commented 4 years ago

I have been unable to replicate on my tablet Galaxy Tab S SM-T700 Android 6.0.1 with Wikipedia Maxi 88.5GB 2020-06-26

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On the very first search I did experience some delay but I would say more in the region of 5 seconds before results appeared and all subsequent searches were fine. @kelson42 is the some index building process on initial search?

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@macgills My UX is similar and is not coherent with the bug report which is more about 60s. The first search needs a bit of I/O, this is the best explanation I have for the moment. Nothing different otherwise in term of processing.

macgills commented 4 years ago

I can make a version with logs for @dbedrenko to help us identify the bottleneck but it may be tomorrow with the PRs on my plate

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

I can make a version with logs for @dbedrenko to help us identify the bottleneck but it may be tomorrow with the PRs on my plate

Take your time, I will be on holiday until Tuesday (and thus unavailable).

Thanks a lot for trying to help the users that DO have this issue! :)

macgills commented 4 years ago

Here is some example output of me searching for "a"

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And here is a link to the apk: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ekCGG8xoR4jXI33Ll35RrWrVK2sM-lWB/view?usp=sharing

Enjoy your holidays and let me know if you encounter any problems

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

@macgills Attached is the output from the point I begin typing "facebo"

The big "Search Suggestion" output is outputted all at once about 15-20 seconds since I began typing. The search results display on screen about ~8 seconds after that.

search_bug1.txt

top displays the kiwixmobile to be the top process throughout, at ~47% CPU. What's noteworthy is that the sdcard process is not to be seen (but it was top process when the app was scanning for the .zim file in the Library screen.)

Please let me know if I can do any more debugging, would be happy to help.

macgills commented 4 years ago

Thank you for the logs. It would be handy if I could get timestamps in the logs, did you get these from the logcat file in the kiwix directory or run logcat yourself?

I wonder if you would get faster results from typing faster, we only submit a term to the results generator if there hasn't been another key entered within 500ms of another key

E/SEARCH_BUG( 5505): about to call searchSuggestions for fa on RxCachedThreadScheduler-9
E/SEARCH_BUG( 5505): about to call searchSuggestions for f on RxCachedThreadScheduler-14
E/SEARCH_BUG( 5505): about to call searchSuggestions for face on RxCachedThreadScheduler-13
E/SEARCH_BUG( 5505): about to call searchSuggestions for faceb on RxCachedThreadScheduler-12
E/SEARCH_BUG( 5505): about to call searchSuggestions for facebo on RxCachedThreadScheduler-22

and as seen here we are operating 5 searches simultaneously in separate threads

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

Thank you for the logs. It would be handy if I could get timestamps in the logs, did you get these from the logcat file in the kiwix directory or run logcat yourself?

I ran logcat via adb, didn't know there was a log file being created somewhere. Not sure how to get this with timestamps...

I wonder if you would get faster results from typing faster, we only submit a term to the results generator if there hasn't been another key entered within 500ms of another key

I made it a point to type with good speed (still using one hand as usual though).

and as seen here we are operating 5 searches simultaneously in separate threads

If searches do not depend on preceding searches, what is the benefit of continuing to fetch the results for "f", "fa", "fac", "face" e.g. at the point in time when the user has entered "faceb"? When the user has entered "faceb" I don't think that they want to see the results for "f" or "fa", etc.

Maybe we should cancel those searches?

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

and as seen here we are operating 5 searches simultaneously in separate threads

If searches do not depend on preceding searches, what is the benefit of continuing to fetch the results for "f", "fa", "fac", "face" e.g. at the point in time when the user has entered "faceb"? When the user has entered "faceb" I don't think that they want to see the results for "f" or "fa", etc.

This remark seems absolutly pertinent to me. On Kiwix-Desktop for Linux/Windows we stop "old" threads before starting one and I thought we had fixed this a few months ago on Kiwix-Android honestly.

macgills commented 4 years ago

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10LPnhWsW11lwTQGbLTKBeJ4HkZXwSxrn/view?usp=sharing here is a version with task cancellation.

it doesn't have the logging in it though so it is a very much "see if it works", for future reference logcat format is controlled with a -v option link

The task cancellation was much uglier code and didn't seem necessary during my testing of fixing the bug of the search results from the reader not being thread safe. I still feel like we are not addressing a core issue because of not being able to reproduce this consistently across devices but if this fixes it then it fixes it.

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

Thank you for the second build, but unfortunately it is still very slow (although it's faster).

Attached is the log for the first debug build, now with timestamps: first-debug-build-with-time.log

And the log from the new debug build that cancels old searches: debug-build-cancel-searches.log

Do you see anything that hints at in which operation most of the time is being spent?

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@dbedrenko Thank you for keeping testing and helping us to fix the problem. I still believe that somehow there is chance that part of the problem comes from the SD card or the SD card reader. If I understand properly, the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra is a really high end device with the lot of internal memory. I would really be interested to know how it works if the ZIM is stored on the internal memory. @macgills I would recommend to have a look to both ticket/PR of https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-desktop/issues/265. Similar problem/solution for Kiwix-Desktop and now it works like a charm.

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

I would really be interested to know how it works if the ZIM is stored on the internal memory.

@kelson42 Unfortunately, my tablet doesn't have such a large internal storage so I cannot try this. As mentioned previously, while the search is happening the sdcard process is not using CPU like it was when scanning the storage card for a .zim file. The CPU was all used up in the kiwix process. This sounds to me like searching is CPU-bound rather than IO-bound.

macgills commented 4 years ago
07-17 21:16:43.914 E/SEARCH_BUG(22157): received search term g
07-17 21:16:44.414 E/SEARCH_BUG(22157): sending g to result generator
//500 ms delay completely expected
07-17 21:16:51.695 E/SEARCH_BUG(22157): about to call searchSuggestions for g on RxCachedThreadScheduler-4
//7 second delay here, note  RxCachedThreadScheduler-4 indicating we absolutely are on a background io thread before calling kiwixlib
07-17 21:17:19.937 E/SEARCH_BUG(22157): result of searchSuggestions for g is true
//28 second delay to get a result from kiwixlib
07-17 21:17:30.453 E/SEARCH_BUG(22157): found suggestion SearchSuggestion(title=Ge, url=/A/Ge)
// results start coming in 10 sec later

so the delay is largely in kiwixlib, it might be beneficial to add logging to the task cancellation apk if you are still willing to test @dbedrenko but this may be tomorrow as I have a good few tickets to get to today.

It is quite technically challenging but in Android Studio there is a Profiler that can be run to collect CPU usage data, I am not too familiar with it and native code but it could offer insight but would require some work, they can be exported as mentioned here and I could do the analysis?

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

so the delay is largely in kiwixlib, it might be beneficial to add logging to the task cancellation apk if you are still willing to test @dbedrenko but this may be tomorrow as I have a good few tickets to get to today.

Would be happy to test; no urgency, please take your time. I am really grateful that you give attention to this bug :)

It is quite technically challenging but in Android Studio there is a Profiler that can be run to collect CPU usage data, I am not too familiar with it and native code but it could offer insight but would require some work, they can be exported as mentioned here and I could do the analysis?

I will try to profile the app. My next hurdle is that Android Studio doesn't detect my device for some reason.

I see that adb allows you to profile the app also; I will try this first.

macgills commented 4 years ago

@dbedrenko https://drive.google.com/file/d/10LPnhWsW11lwTQGbLTKBeJ4HkZXwSxrn/view?usp=sharing a task cancellation version with logging

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

I attach a log with the above version.

I am trying to make the profiling work: this should be very helpful. with-cancelling-and-logging.log

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

I have a profile trace of me searching for "shakes" with the cancel searches, logging enabled build.

This is how it looks like in Android Device Monitor (to run this tool, go to <YOUR-SDK-DIR>/tools and run ./monitor)

You can also open it in with Android Studio (this is how it looks like) and select the thread to analyse at the top left. It's weird that here you don't see all the columns that were in the Android Device Monitor like "Excl. CPU Time %". I guess they are buried somewhere in the interface...

shakes-search.trace.zip

The trace doesn't make sense to me, how is the "Incl CPU Time %" column not adding up to 100% ? Does it make sense to you?

macgills commented 4 years ago

I attach a log with the above version.

I am trying to make the profiling work: this should be very helpful. with-cancelling-and-logging.log

Oh how very annoying, the task cancellation isn't cancelling the tasks. I have a few options here 1 which I like but could make things a bit more complex overall and another I hate but keeps the ugly in this file.

1) Introduce coroutines to the project, their ease of cancellability is much touted, they are the future of async programming on Android but RxJava is fulfilling a similar role right now so we would have 2 competing tools. 2) Just start a thread for searching so when I kill it it actually gets killed

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

My opinion is probably not informed, but if one option is much easier to do than the other, I would do that one first to see if this actually fixes the slow search bug (remember, most people get instantaneous search results even without search cancellation). If it doesn't solve it, you don't have to merge it and we would look for the solution elsewhere.

macgills commented 4 years ago

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10LPnhWsW11lwTQGbLTKBeJ4HkZXwSxrn/view?usp=sharing

If you can try this version, coroutines with logging. Coroutines ended up being the nicest to implement with the finest grain of control. Thanks for your continued patience and assistance

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

Sorry for the delay, here is the log and the trace for search term "faceboo":

coroutines-with-logging.log coroutines-with-logging.trace.zip

This was the first search after starting the app. It took around 25 seconds from last letter touched to search results. Does the profiling trace illuminate anything? Thank you for not giving up on this issue :-)

If I do searches after that they are a lot quicker: around 15 seconds for "mango", 15 seconds for "john", 8 seconds for "bloke", 6 seconds for "shakespeare", 15 seconds for "google" (the duration is from the last letter touched to search results appearing).

macgills commented 4 years ago
07-30 20:33:11.511 E/SEARCH_BUG( 8370): before searchSuggestions for f
07-30 20:33:31.621 E/SEARCH_BUG( 8370): after searchSuggestions for f
07-30 20:33:31.621 E/SEARCH_BUG( 8370): before searchSuggestions for fa
07-30 20:33:31.628 E/SEARCH_BUG( 8370): before searchSuggestions for face
07-30 20:33:31.644 E/SEARCH_BUG( 8370): before searchSuggestions for faceboo

This has actually uncovered something a little interesting.

I assume in the 20 seconds between typing "f" and reaching "after searchSuggestions" for "f" you had typed the rest of "faceboo".

In a typical situation I would expect to see multiple "before searchSuggestions" arrive. This leads me to believe only a singular thread is free? Otherwise the other operations would just start and not be blocked by "searchsuggestions f"

Additional threads in this pool are created and are shutdown on demand. The number of threads used by this dispatcher is limited by the value of “kotlinx.coroutines.io.parallelism” (IO_PARALLELISM_PROPERTY_NAME) system property. It defaults to the limit of 64 threads or the number of cores (whichever is larger).

or you have a device with a single core? Doesn't seem likely.

I can try one more thing before I need to take a look at maybe re-implementing search suggestion from kiwixlib in kotlin as a cancellable suspend function? Which may very well be infeasible.

Unfortunately it will be monday before I can come back to this and hopefully dive into the traces

dbedrenko commented 4 years ago

or you have a device with a single core? Doesn't seem likely.

My tablet has a dual-core CPU: "Dual-core 1.0 GHz Cortex-A9" to be exact.

kelson42 commented 4 years ago

@macgills Any feedback here? Would like to know if you need anything from libkiwix.

macgills commented 4 years ago

I think to resolve this I would need for the kiwixlib api offer me a way to instead of doing 1 call searchSuggestions(searchTerm, 200) that blocks execution I would need something I can call iteratively so that execution returns to my control and I can call yield or ensureActive which will actually halt the execution entirely so the thread can stop.

I still haven't really analysed the CPU trace, it is hard to fit in to the daily routine of reviews, notification clearings, etc as it is a lengthy enough task. Buying the device in question might be feasible, I also have a budget alcatel device that might have 2 cores? It barely turns on it has so little memory though so that is always an annoying process.