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kizniche / Mycodo

An environmental monitoring and regulation system
http://kylegabriel.com/projects/
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DFRobot Digital Peristaltic Pump - DFR0523 #1188

Open snickers2k opened 2 years ago

snickers2k commented 2 years ago

I would love to have some alternatives for the atlas scientific digital pumps. they just updated the price down to $35 !

Plus they're getting only 5V, directly via I2c .. which makes the wiring so much easier. so on first look, i guess they are the better choice.

https://wiki.dfrobot.com/Gravity__Digital_Peristaltic_Pump_SKU__DFR0523

if using them with i2c multiplexer like this https://www.dfrobot.com/product-1780.html there is absolutely no tinkering. every pump gets their own address. plug and play. but of course you made it really easy to change i2c addresses from inside mycodo anyway (thanks for that).

thank you

snickers2k commented 2 years ago

they just updated the price from $65 down to $35 , for a digital i2c pump. probably even better suited for mycodo-users, because of default i2c and 5v only. everything beyond that price is probably a rip-off. (like i do feel ripped off by atlas now)

and 50ml is 50ml .. i don't care for 50,3ml or not .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THdMm_TAcME

or can somebody explain why the Atlas are worth the price ?

i guess the extra dollar is better spend with a donation to kyle gabriel (mycodo)

kizniche commented 2 years ago

I don't see I2C listed for the product you linked to.

snickers2k commented 2 years ago

you are right so without i2c, i guess this one is problematic with multiple pumps? maybe i figure out another alternative for atlas pumps :/

kizniche commented 2 years ago

Not necessarily. It will just require a GPIO to drive a PPM signal for each pump, which could also potentially be controlled by a 16-channel I2C PWM driver.

kizniche commented 2 years ago

I bought this pump along with the temperature board/probe, so I will be seeing if I can make an output module for it.

snickers2k commented 1 year ago

any news on this?

kizniche commented 1 year ago

I had an issue when I initially started developing the output module and I haven't made a second attempt. I'll give it another go and see if I can get a working output made.

kizniche commented 1 year ago

can somebody explain why the Atlas are worth the price

Also, to answer this question, the pumps themselves are high quality Welco pumps. I have several of these pumps by themselves (~$30 each) that I control with MOSFETs. The rest of the Atlas Scientific circuitry on the pump is good for beginners that are trying to interface it with different communication protocols and want to only send a volume or duration to turn on rather than coding all aspects of the driver. With Mycodo, this becomes redundant, since there are now general pump outputs that can conduct calibration and dispense volumes automatically based on the calibrated flow rate. These outputs didn't exist when I created my first howto that used these pumps. I created them later as a way to use less expensive pumps and your own control circuitry (relay, MOSFET, etc.) to reduce the cost.

kizniche commented 1 year ago

The AS pump circuit also adds a bit of reliability, especially when dispensing for long durations, as you can send a duration to the pump and its own microcontroller will schedule turning the pump off. If relying on Mycodo (or something else) to turn the pump on and then off after a duration, and something happened to Mycodo (or the hardware running it) before the pump turned off and never gets the off signal, the pump may stay running beyond when it should have turned off. Having dedicated hardware to handle turning the pump off improves reliability.

snickers2k commented 1 year ago

this is well explained. thank you very much. that level of reliability AS-pumps has seems a good point to take into consideration.

kizniche commented 1 year ago

I'll add that the current Mycodo Atlas Scientific Pump Output module does not send the duration to the pump to handle turning off automatically. The module operates as all the other duration modules do, which is Mycodo handles turning the pump on and off. To take advantage of the AS Pump's ability to manage its own timer-handling, a new output module would need to be created (simply duplicate the current Atlas Scientific Pump Output and make necessary changes). I haven't had a need for such an output, since my pump durations are relatively short (1 - 3 seconds at a time), but as on duration increases, so too does the risk (when not using the built-in timer-handling).