Closed candidexmedia closed 3 months ago
Can you share the raw HTML body of an e-mail sent by Mailchimp which has the "preheader" text?
@knadh Here's an example from this campaign sent from MailChimp. The preheader is "Get access to our brand new course by joining SuperHi Unlimited"
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Subject: Intro to User Interface Design course: now available
From: Rik from SuperHi <hi@superhi.com>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 18:00:00 +0000
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Get access to our brand new course by joining SuperHi Unlimited
View this email in your browser (https://mailchi.mp/superhi/may-news-475794=
2?e=3Daf4628d228)
https://www.superhi.com?goal=3D0_01cde0de1a-693889d310-332352394&mc_cid=3D6=
93889d310&mc_eid=3DUNIQID
https://www.superhi.com/unlimited-membership?goal=3D0_01cde0de1a-693889d310=
-332352394&mc_cid=3D693889d310&mc_eid=3DUNIQID
Hey everyone,
From today you can access to our brand new course, Intro to User Interface =
Design, by upgrading to a SuperHi Unlimited membership (https://www.superhi=
.com/unlimited-membership?goal=3D0_01cde0de1a-693889d310-332352394&mc_cid=
=3D693889d310&mc_eid=3DUNIQID) (US$360 a year until June 30th). The topics=
covered in this course are, by far, our most-requested ones so we're very =
happy to announce this launch!
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As I'd said earlier, why not insert this in the top of the campaign body? It won't make sense to add a dedicated field for this in the UI as it's just an arbitrary string inserted into the template in an arbitrary position. It would also require the header to have specific template code in its HTML.
Besides the Raw HTML editor, how could users add a preheader text with the Rich text, Markdown, or Plain text editors without the text being visible? Personally, I wouldn't know how to, and I'm not sure if less technically-inclined users would either (say, if an instance was deployed and maintained for them).
Adding a field for preheader/preview text saves the headache of figuring that out, and incorporates a feature that people switching to Listmonk would expect to see. Preheaders/Preview texts are just as visible and important as email subject lines:
(source: Why PreHeader Text Is the Most Neglected Part of An Email)
Nearly all comparable apps have a field for the preheader:
Apart from it is only doable using raw HTML editor, you could already have certain text within the template, in this case such text is being loaded to the preheader of the email clients no matter what you tried to type in the Campaign content.
A better approach is to allow insert additional text fields to the template in addition to {{ template "content" . }}, in this case user can use their own way to achieve the preheader text feature (e.g. put that addition text field to a hidden div).
A better approach is to allow insert additional text fields to the template in addition to {{ template "content" . }}, in this case user can use their own way to achieve the preheader text feature (e.g. put that addition text field to a hidden div).
Yeah, this is the better way. Dynamic campaign attributes without hardcoding "pre header" as a feature.
As long as there is clear and easy to follow documentation on how to use dynamic campaign attributes for preheader/preview text (likely through a user guide), I'm on board with whatever solution makes the most sense from a development standpoint.
I was looking for a solution to have a separate content field for the message preview. I have some default stuff as the first content in the mail and I want to prepend that with a (hidden in email content) message preview that will show up in the inbox.
This is such a common use case in email campaign software that it might be a feature on it's own instead of a whole 'custom content fields' feature.
Good point @reinier !
I've just realized that this was marked as "not planned"...
How are users supposed to add preheader content?
Hey everyone,
Could be very nice to add a {{ preHeader }}
variable inside the email body, similar to the following:
<body>
<!-- -->
<!--[if !gte mso 9]>
<!-- -->
<span style="display:none; font-size:0px; line-height:0px; max-height:0px; max-width:0px; opacity:0; overflow:hidden; visibility:hidden; mso-hide:all;">
{{ preHeader }}
</span>
<!--<![endif]-->
<!-- -->
... the HTML content ...
</body>
Additionally, it would be great to have this {{ preHeader }}
variable available as a new field within the campaign creation process. This would allow users to easily customize their preheader text.
To make the emails even more engaging, I suggest providing the ability to insert dynamic variables within attributes. This would enable personalized and dedicated messages, enhancing the overall user experience when sending and receiving emails.
@Francescoliverio I 100% agree. If I had the technical ability, I would definitely make a PR.
This feature was closed with the remark "not planned." Is there a reason for this? I absolutely understand if it’s due to a lack of resources. However, this feature should still be on the roadmap. Listmonk is specifically designed for sending newsletters with an appealing layout (HTML).
If you create a nice layout, including a logo in the email header, and want to adhere to certain standards and guidelines (e.g., using alt texts in tags for screen readers), it might happen that these alt texts define the "preview text" of the email. This results in the preview text starting with something like "Company Logo ...".
Should it really stay this way? We can't just insert a hidden element in the header of the template because you would have to manually adjust the preview text in this span before every single send-out or create a template copy for every campaign.
Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
Hi! I'd like to be able to edit the preheader text for campaigns (building on https://github.com/knadh/listmonk/issues/924).
Describe the solution you'd like
Typically, the field to edit preheader text is beside the subject line field.
Listmonk
MailChimp
Envoke
Why is this important?
Preheader text is a great way to entice people to open the email by summarizing its content. Email clients generally display at minimum of 40 characters on the low end and up to 100 in some cases. Most mailing list services limit the number of characters for this field.
If preheader/preview text isn't added, the first line of the email is used. For some of us, that would be "View email in browser", which isn't the most descriptive or appealing text to display...