knivd / ELLO-2M

ELLO 2M and ELLO 2M² (stacked PCB DIY computer)
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Please make your OSHW project actual OSHW #4

Closed buzztiaan closed 8 years ago

buzztiaan commented 8 years ago

http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW

This is depending on the availability of actual FOSS software to edit your sourcefiles. The current design you are trying to push lacks this.

Please improve.

buzztiaan commented 8 years ago

If you fail to adhere to the specification listed above, I would recommend you just drop the OSHW definition from your project.

alexisvl commented 8 years ago

Please, point to the specific section of the definition that requires it. I'm not seeing it.

buzztiaan commented 8 years ago

yes, its point 3b

b) The necessary software is released under an OSI-approved open source license.

alexisvl commented 8 years ago

You haven't read the whole thing then. Look above that.

Necessary software

If the licensed design requires software, embedded or otherwise, to operate properly and fulfill its essential functions, then the license may require that one of the following conditions are met:

a) [snip]

b) The necessary software is released under an OSI-approved open source license.

_The license may require_ means that an individual license may choose to require this, or it may not. It does not demand that licenses require this; if it did, it would have said "must" or "shall" as numerous other statements in the definition do.

Please, read the whole thing, and read it carefully, before making an ass of yourself. "Legalese" is written with a great amount of care with regard to the meaning of individual words like that, and a reading that does not exercise similar care will extract nonsense from the text.

buzztiaan commented 8 years ago

what use is source when you need to pay to edit it?

alexisvl commented 8 years ago

Doesn't matter, the definition allows it, so there's no "issue" here. If you want to have a philosophical debate with me or the project owner about whether it's really in the "spirit" of things, that can be done in a side channel, but this is an inappropriate and frankly asinine thing to make an "issue".

knivd commented 8 years ago

I am only providing free and open hardware design. I don't offer the EDA tools for it. Yet, it can be used with CircuitMaker, which itself is a FREE CAD. Unfortunately this is the best I can do. If you don't consider it free and open enough for you, please don't use it. Thanks