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Reading notification #421

Open daniele-athome opened 9 years ago

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

Using some existing XEP if possible.

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webratte commented 9 years ago

If I understand it right, it's the same thing like the blue checkmarks in WhatsApp!?

You will imlement it as a userpreference -switched off by default- I suppose :-P

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

Yes you got it right and yes there will be a preference - but I think it will be on by default, otherwise people would not even know about it :-(

webratte commented 9 years ago

There was a big discussion after implement this feature in WhatsApp.

What do you think about ask user on first App start for enable/disable reading notification? Of course if it's not too much work.

giner commented 9 years ago

I guess the main question with WhatsApp was related to inability to disable this behaviour.

ameenross commented 9 years ago

What do you think about ask user on first App start for enable/disable reading notification?

That would probably require implementing a wizard (people tend to just press "next" until done) or a library such as ShowcaseView

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

I think he's right: the problem was not being able to disable it.

I don't think it's such a big deal. I wanted to introduce some kind of showcase feature, but it's not going to highlight this feature I think. A user preference under "privacy settings" will suffice. I'll improve documentation to make it clear that there is a whole settings section dedicated to privacy that people can tweak.

webratte commented 9 years ago

OK, I think your right. Maybe I'm just a little bit paranoid ;-)

But I still think users should after starting the App first time informed about this new feature. In some Apps there is after update a simple window (with just a OK Button) shown "Whats new" (e.g. in K9 Mail). And there are all changes since last update. What do you think about that?

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

Errrh... I've always been against those kind of dialogs. Those information should be and stay in the publishing platform. It's a shame F-Droid still doesn't have a "recent changes" box.

webratte commented 9 years ago

OK, you are the developer. I will be quiet for now ;-)

But: I'LL BE BACK :-D

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

Sorry :P you know I'm always open to suggestions, but I also like to keep things were they are supposed to be.

h-2 commented 9 years ago

I am still in favor of per user settings that you see immediately in the invitation workflow, see also #300 (this part of the issue was not yet resolved).

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

@h-2 unfortunately #300 is a big issue and I had to postpone it to a later release. Release 3.0.1 will have an application-wide preference; #300 will introduce per-user settings for encryption and other privacy-related stuff.

h-2 commented 9 years ago

Yeah, sure, no rush! Just wanted to mention it, since it was related to the current issue :)

webratte commented 9 years ago

@daniele-athome Will you fix the problem with the second checkmark (I'v not tested it yet with Version 3.0), we talked about in #416, before you implement reading notification?

daniele-athome commented 9 years ago

I don't know the exact timing... Tigase issues are coordinated with the Tigase team, it's not as fast as here...

webratte commented 9 years ago

Just a idea. Maybe it's hard (or impossible) to implement. But I still ask you ;-)

My idea is a option to enable/disable reading notification for each contact individually. For example: In global settings reading notifications are enabled. But I can disable it for e.g. my boss . Because my wife should know that I have read here message but my boss must not know that I have read his message.

webratte commented 9 years ago

Oops... I have just seen @h-2 has mentioned it already with other words. Sorry for duplicate.

TheLastProject commented 8 years ago

Would XEP-0184 perhaps be what you want? Chapter 7 seems to talk about "[...] an ack message by a receiving entity that wishes to inform the sending entity that the content message has been received", which seems to be exactly what you want.

daniele-athome commented 8 years ago

XEP-0184 is what we currently use as delivery receipt (the double tick mark). What I'd like here is one further step: message received -> message read, which is not covered by XEP-0184.