daodragon
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5 years ago let me inject this shower thoughts in too
hmm now i can't get the concept out of my mind a giant tree that makes a portal to the betweenlands mining down to bedrock sends you to erebus and the "overworld" is twilight forest
kreezxil
9:58 AM] iamweirdie : Alright, so if the twilight forest is so easy in relation to wod, and difficulty is not exactly the top priority of twilight forest, AND we're trying to keep the pack light, then what else can be added/modified?
[10:00 AM] Bloody Executioner: also another thing i am pretty sure it is only magic mods
[10:01 AM] Bloody Executioner: to go with the whole theme
[10:01 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: I would say add just one tech mod, like Immersive Engineering, to the pack. From what I saw of the mod list, there is a magical mod, so this would balance it. I'd not add more than one, tho. BuiltCraft would be fun as an older mod that most people ignore now.
If the idea is to only have magical mods, then skip all tech mods. [10:02 AM] Kreezxil: i loathe imm eng [10:02 AM] Bloody Executioner: every time i play magic packs there is always comes that scenario where we are defeating the evil lich king or monster with tech
[10:03 AM] Bloody Executioner: i loathe all tech mods when i play magic packs
[10:03 AM] iamweirdie : Alright so let's back up
[10:03 AM] iamweirdie : More crazy mobs? Is that a possible priority??
[10:04 AM] Bloody Executioner: don't think so
[10:04 AM] Bloody Executioner: it is suppose to be a light pack
[10:04 AM] Bloody Executioner: most crazy mobs have heavy ai
[10:04 AM] Bloody Executioner: or buggy
[10:04 AM] Bloody Executioner: depending how you see it
[10:05 AM] iamweirdie : Hmmm well then that just leaves twilight forest as an exploratory pack that nothing can be done
[10:06 AM] Bloody Executioner: not true you can add some mobs that are light
[10:06 AM] Bloody Executioner: ember zoo adds colorfull golems
[10:07 AM] Bloody Executioner: also ember is pretty old magic tech
[10:07 AM] Bloody Executioner: you feel like you are doing magic more than you are doing tech
[10:07 AM] Bloody Executioner: tho setting it up is a drag
[10:09 AM] iamweirdie : https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/atomicstrykers-infernal-mobs
CurseForge
AtomicStryker's Infernal Mobs
Diablo Style Modifiers
[10:10 AM] iamweirdie : Is that fitting?
[10:10 AM] Bloody Executioner: let me see
[10:10 AM] Kreezxil: i can add that and champions
[10:10 AM] Kreezxil: and bloodmoon
[10:10 AM] Kreezxil: and Mob Sunscreen
[10:11 AM] Kreezxil: and then I could put a recommendation on the site, Recommend for SSP, or a 5 players on a 4gb dedicated world limited to 15k block radius.
[10:12 AM] Kreezxil: for a way to process resources that is a new take on magic and tech, I can add hearth well
[10:12 AM] Bloody Executioner: SSP?
[10:12 AM] Kreezxil: taht will give you guys plenty of stuff to make quests against
[10:12 AM] Bloody Executioner: Ssingleplayer?
[10:12 AM] Bloody Executioner: what is the first S?
[10:13 AM] Kreezxil: Survival Single Player
[10:13 AM] Bloody Executioner: ooohh
[10:13 AM] Bloody Executioner: sorry
[10:13 AM] Bloody Executioner: hmm
[10:14 AM] iamweirdie : https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/mine-and-slash-reloaded would this fit the theme of the twilight forest pack?
CurseForge
Mine and Slash
Turn Minecraft into a hack and slash looter!
[10:14 AM] Bloody Executioner: why do i feel like no one would survive the nighttime
[10:14 AM] Bloody Executioner: The intent is to make Loot (mob drops) the primary way to obtain gear and to provide satisfying highly randomized loot drops and an in-depth player stat system that allows you to specialize and min max your character. Secondary intent is to provide long term progression.
[10:14 AM] Bloody Executioner: i like that
[10:15 AM] Bloody Executioner: however
[10:15 AM] Bloody Executioner: it does say that the farther from spawn the harder the mob
[10:15 AM] Bloody Executioner: and if the intent is to be it 15k map
[10:15 AM] Bloody Executioner: that would make a hard cap
[10:16 AM] iamweirdie : Well earlier kree noted that twilight forest wasn't a map to use rtp
[10:16 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: I encourage Hearth Well to be added to the pack. It has a magical feel, but it allows people to get resources. I would also point out that adding Hearth Well will, by default, disable the Nether and End. But since this is a TF world, those two aren't necessary. Not with Hearth Well.
[10:17 AM] Bloody Executioner: hmm nice
[10:17 AM] Bloody Executioner: also there is barely any point to the end other than few stuff but nether might be trouble some
[10:17 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: I wrote up some quests for Hearth Well to get people started in the Godblock pack. They would need to be tweaked for voice and lack of Nothingness.
[10:17 AM] Bloody Executioner: you need blaze powder
[10:18 AM] Kreezxil: I'll add these mods, wipe the world, and we can run another INDEV for another period of time
[10:18 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: Hearth Well can get you blaze powder.
[10:18 AM] Bloody Executioner: oh ok
[10:18 AM] Bloody Executioner: cool
[10:18 AM] Kreezxil: hearth well has the affect of knocking out the other dimensions too
[10:18 AM] Bloody Executioner: oof
[10:18 AM] Kreezxil: not oof, that's what i want
[10:18 AM] Bloody Executioner: so it wont play nice with twilight forest then i mean
[10:18 AM] Kreezxil: I want only twilight forests and dragons stuff
[10:18 AM] Kreezxil: it will
[10:18 AM] Kreezxil: because the pack starts you in tf
[10:19 AM] Bloody Executioner: so bye bye to the overworld
[10:19 AM] Kreezxil: and the pack doesn't let you go to the ow either
[10:19 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: TF is the overworld for the pack.
[10:19 AM] Kreezxil: fuck the ow
[10:19 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: Does it show up as Dim0 or the normal TF dimension?
[10:19 AM] Bloody Executioner: then we need to make wizardery world gen spawn in twilight forest then
[10:19 AM] Kreezxil: I think with everything we've witnessed and learn DOT might be next big pack for 1.12.2
[10:19 AM] Kreezxil: it's still there and only has the spawn chunks in it
[10:20 AM] Kreezxil: only ops can get to it
[10:20 AM] iamweirdie : Alright so can we summarize what mods are being added to DoT?
[10:20 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: To gate the wizardry stuff, its world gen could be relegated to a separate dimension like the Hunting Dimension.
[10:21 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: Since that dimension is perpetually night like TF, it would fit.
[10:21 AM] Bloody Executioner: twilight forest has a day/night cycle tho
[10:21 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: And it would force people to start with Hearth Well to get equipped to survive.
[10:21 AM] Bloody Executioner: well it has but i think it is perpetually daytime
[10:22 AM] Bloody Executioner: because i never saw hostile spawn on me
[10:22 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: It's perpetually Twilight. It says so in the title. Plus a sparkling vampire told me that was the case, so I know it's true.
[10:22 AM] Kreezxil:
[10:23 AM] Bloody Executioner: hahahah
[10:23 AM] Bloody Executioner: i love Dim20
[10:24 AM] iamweirdie : Ok Alright so can we summarize changes in DoT?
[10:24 AM] Kreezxil: all changes are soft until finalized
[10:24 AM] Bloody Executioner: hAHA
[10:24 AM] Grok_DuckFarmer: A party of mine was fighting a pretty big dragon, and one of the fighters decided he wanted to jump down on the dragon's head since he was about 20 feet above it. I told him it would be a pretty hard athletics check. He rolled a 20. So for the next few rounds, he was riding the dragon and doing massive damage. Each round he succeeded with another hard athletics check to stay on. Lots of fun because the guy was willing to risk something big.
[10:25 AM] iamweirdie : Right but aren't we gonna hav an indev shortly for twilight forest or did u mean generally later?
[10:25 AM] Kreezxil: @M0nk3y is this how you learn thine language?
[10:26 AM] Kreezxil: I just had a wicked awesome idea [10:26 AM] Kreezxil: a new mod, it captures all the player interactiion events that involve combat and magic, also it captures the mobs too [10:27 AM] iamweirdie : Well this is just flying everywhere quickly :(
[10:27 AM] Kreezxil: and then forces roling of the die
[10:27 AM] Bloody Executioner: https://tenor.com/view/first-time-james-franco-james-franco-buster-gif-12948907
[10:28 AM] Kreezxil: like you encounter the t3 dragon, but now you have to roll vs all your stats in various ways, plus it too, and well there is initiative
[10:28 AM] Bloody Executioner: this is normal iamweirdie
[10:28 AM] Kreezxil: gone will be battles that last 1 real hour, they'll last a week
[10:28 AM] Kreezxil: it might encourage group play
[10:29 AM] Kreezxil: or a mod that creates action queues
[10:29 AM] Kreezxil: no die rolling, you and the mobs take turns selecting actions
[10:29 AM] Kreezxil: like Final Fantasy queues
[10:29 AM] Kreezxil: i've got some things to do and then I'll update DOT in about 4 hours.