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There is mainly two possible causes on this kind of issues :
* The variant of this Samsung i9000 has another audio implementation than the
one I tested on Galaxy S -and that work. However samsung as such an awful audio
implementation on this series... that I would not be so much astonished.
* Something goes wrong with the network and/or configuration.
To test if it's the first point, you should maybe try to enable/disable speaker
and hold/resume call and see how things goes if nothing is observed, probably
something with the second point.
So, if the second one, maybe setting a stun server could help :
Go on setting Settings > Network - Tick Use Stun and fill a stun server on the
field bellow. You can use whatever stun server you want it's not necessarily
linked to your provider. See http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/STUN Public
Stun server section.
If it doesn't work, you can also try to use ICE.
If none of this tests helps, you should maybe ensure that there is no firewall
between your device and the other party ( or your router doesn't route things).
And finally, you could send me logs (see on the wiki, there is a page about
HowToCollectLogs), so that I can maybe understand more what is happening.
What would be really interesting for me too is whether you tried with another
android sip phone with the same configuration and the same remote party.
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 1 Oct 2010 at 9:38
After following your instructions, it is now working.
I Had to add a STUN server and turn ICE on. I can hear with no problem now,
however the voice quality incoming and outgoing was OK, little choppy, even
after activating the options to prevent that on the settings menu, I guess it
is because of the low bitrate codec, my Voip Phone Service(Inphonex) supports
only 3 codecs available on csipsimple, PCMU, PCMA and ilibc.
Iphonex Supports: G711, G729, G726, G723, ILIBC, GSM,
So it would be nice to see some of the higher bitrate codecs that will work
with my service provider in future versions of csipsimple.
Thank you for your support.
Original comment by danbor...@gmail.com
on 1 Oct 2010 at 11:38
Great
Well csipsimple already support a lot of codecs. You can configure their
priorities in settings, media, codecs
Pcmu =g711
Pcma = g711a
There is also ilbc, gsm, speex,g722...
I have something that work with g729, but I don't want to publish it now due to
licensing issues I have with this codec. G726 is planned but will not improve
things in your situation.
I get some really good results with ilbc. But you have to ensure that it I is
actually the codec chosen on the sip negotiation. So while in call use the i
button to see what is the current codec. You can try to disable some codecs in
settings if your server always choose pcmu/a. Long click on a codec to do so.
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 2 Oct 2010 at 6:50
I missed GSM on the csipsimple codec list, and actually GSM worked best of all,
but for some reason, GSM and ILIBC does not work when I make calls to Brazil,
it works when I make local calls in USA. only PCMA and PCMU works calling
Brazil, but the quality is terrible.
Thank you.
Original comment by danbor...@gmail.com
on 3 Oct 2010 at 1:51
If GSM & iLBC doesn't work for call to Brazil, two cause are possible :
* The remote party actually support gsm & iLBC, but prefer pcmu. If so, you can
try to disable pcmu/pcma from the codec list (long click & Deactivate on a
codec row).
If it's actually unsupported by the remote party, you'll see call "Connecting"
and will directly hangup, since codec negotiation has failed. If it succeed,
you are probably having a call that use a codec within the non disabled codec
list :).
* The remote party or your gateway server (if it's a pstn call) doesn't support
these codecs. If so nothing, unfortunately, can be done in CSipSimple to help.
However, if you get a bad sound quality (I mean choppy sound) with G711, it
mean that your network (or more precisely the network between you and the
remote party), is not good enough. It's confirmed by the fact using GSM makes
things better on local : GSM use a lower bandwidth than G711.
On a good network CSipSimple provide a good call quality (tested and validated
by many people here ;) ). I guess that with your and your remote party network
you'll not find any sip application that make the call quality good enough.
If you are interested in codec stuff, you can read this
http://www.speex.org/comparison/ comparison. CPU usage is not shown on this
table, but with your galaxy i9000, will not has a big impact.
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 3 Oct 2010 at 8:25
I'm testing csipsimple using my galaxy s i9000 (original firmware).
First I couldn't hear the other party at all, but the other party hear me
perfectly.
When starting a call, I could see a speaker symbol with a crossing line, at the
top (like a no sound symbol).
After enabling STUN, I started hearing the other party! BUT... the "no audio"
symbol still appears.
r3gis, sorry for my beginner question ... but could you explain me why should I
enable STUN to get it working?
CSipSimple is the fist app working "almost" perfectly! Congratulation for the
amazing work!
Original comment by fles...@gmail.com
on 4 Oct 2010 at 3:07
As for the "no sound" icon, it just mean that the ringer mode is now muted.
It's to avoid GSM phone ringing while you are in a SIP call and avoid to
destroy your ear ;).
You need stun because you are probably under a NATed network (with some routers
between you and your server/the remote party).
STUN is a service that allow your SIP client to know its public IP and so allow
your remote contact or server to send you audio packets. If it's not activated,
it's possible that you (your sip client) announce a IP that is unreachable by
the remote party... So the remote party will try to send you packet to an IP
that it can't reach... and this packets will be lost in the network :)
So under certain network configuration -usually with 3G when data is carried by
your carrier- stun or Turn or ICE are needed.
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 4 Oct 2010 at 3:41
Now I got it! :) Thanks.
I forgot I was using wifi!
I've got to agree with you, samsung did a poor job with the audio/mic
system in the i9000 (it's a shame because the rest of the phone is very
good).
One thing I noticed is that the other party can't hear me the way I hear
them. I can hear well, but when I talk, my voice get there broken. When they
talk they get a horrible echo too. It doesn't happen only with csipsimple, it
happens with all others voip apps.
I think it's because the poor mic i9000 has. It's too sensitive and too
loud... I really don't know.
I will have to wait for froyo 2.2 update to see if samsung will fix this
system.
Until there... I don't know what I can do to have a good voip app running
in this phone. You're are the one who is getting close, but I think samsung is
not colaborating with you! :)
Original comment by fles...@gmail.com
on 4 Oct 2010 at 5:25
For echo issue you should read issue 259. There is good settings that should
help a little bit.
That's now included as default parameter in 0.00-13-04 but will not erase your
existing settings if you have csipsimple already installed. So you can either
uninstall and reinstall version -13-04 or set settings listed in issue 259 by
hand and say me how it goes :).
For the micro in fact they used Alsa (a well known linux driver on this
mobile). However the implementation of Alsa in android (not done by samsung)
doesn't behaves as a standard developer would have expect. Besides they did
something really crappy with audio routes that doesn't make things better :).
But your right, the rest of the phone is amazing .... still prefer my Nexus One
since more up to date but I'm hesitating in buying one galaxyS... besides would
be easier to test on ;)
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 4 Oct 2010 at 6:03
Wow!! Amazing!! Now I can hear and the other party can hear me too!! Perfect!
One more doubt. After installing 0.00-13-04 I went on setting to check the
Mic/Speaker amplification values and both was set as 1. Based on the values
posted on issue 259, I'm not sure if you apply these values internally or not,
but I manually changed even after 0.00-13-04. Is it necessary?
Thanks again r3gis! I can't believe it's working!
Original comment by fles...@gmail.com
on 4 Oct 2010 at 8:29
If you do an upgrade I'll not change the existing values. If it is a new
install ( if you uninstall it before installing the new version) default values
should be set to values of issue 259. At least it should be else let me know.
But yes if it is an upgrade I will not change any settings.
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 4 Oct 2010 at 9:18
I've uninstalled before installing again. Even doing this the default values
was 1.
Maybe it's because my phone is the brazilian version (I9000B). If you set
defaults based on model number, probably that's the reason.
Original comment by fles...@gmail.com
on 5 Oct 2010 at 1:33
Indeed could be a reason. I'm based on the "device" field :
android.os.Build.DEVICE.equals("GT-I9000")
I'd like to know the model of your phone to be able to support it too. If you
can install for example DeviceInfo available on the market and say me what is
the device name, could help me a lot. Thx in advance
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 5 Oct 2010 at 1:54
GT-I9000B
Instead using "equals" you could check if the string starts with "GT-I9000".
I believe that the diference between worldwide models is the last letter.
Original comment by fles...@gmail.com
on 5 Oct 2010 at 2:50
Hello r3gis.3R,
FYI: Going back to my previous post about call quality to brazil using inphonex
service provider, I called them and they told me most of phone providers in
brazil uses g729 codec, thats why I was having such a terrible experience
making calls internationally.
Making calls here in US, quality is crystal clear.
Do you know when you're going to have G729 support in CSIPSIMPLE?
Thanks for providing such a great app.
Original comment by danbor...@gmail.com
on 6 Oct 2010 at 4:34
G729 is now just a license and distribution issue. Code is functional...
So it will be available once I'll get time to find a good way to distribute it
respecting the g729 license. See issue 8
I have to admit that I'm more confident in coding stuff than in lawyers and
proprietary licenses stuff....
If only g729 license where compatible with gpl distribution it could have been
already included....
Original comment by r3gis...@gmail.com
on 6 Oct 2010 at 5:30
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
danbor...@gmail.com
on 1 Oct 2010 at 7:53