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Blue - An Integrated Music Environment
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organization for effects in mixer #432

Open tjingboem opened 5 years ago

tjingboem commented 5 years ago

some thoughts about the organization of the effects in Blue. In Linux Mint i always check the option 'always On Top' to be sure that the effects don't "disappear" when i go and work in the score. Because of this always-on-top function of my window manager (while other VMs do not have this option), i have a lot of screen clutter that consists of effect swimming around the screen, even when i am not working on that sound/channel.

Possible solutions:

tjingboem commented 5 years ago

Some further thoughts on the organization of effects: working with effects and being it quite messy at the moment, i wondered if it were possible to append the instrID to the effect in the mixerstrip. This is how it looks like now: effectmess There are 3 instances of the same effect on the different mixerstrips. Mixerstrips themselves are based on the instrument ID. But what effect belongs to which strip??

Is there a way to add the instrID to each effect so the user knows which effect belongs to which channel? Perhaps there is another solution to this issue?

kunstmusik commented 5 years ago

Interesting, I think I don't run into this as I haven't used so many effects like this myself. I think maybe something like:

[1] - loopIt! [Master] - loopIt! [Subchannel1] - loopIt!

Might not be perfect but would at least be an improvement for the current design and I think it wouldn't be too tricky to implement.

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Some further thoughts on the organization of effects: working with effects and being it quite messy at the moment, i wondered if it were possible to append the instrID to the effect in the mixerstrip. This is how it looks like now: [image: effectmess] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6670911/57128653-6777c280-6d94-11e9-9dc5-f239a85f00f0.png There are 3 instances of the same effect on the different mixerstrips. Mixerstrips themselves are based on the instrument ID. But what effect belongs to which strip??

Is there a way to add the instrID to each effect so the user knows which effect belongs to which channel? Perhaps there is another solution to this issue?

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tjingboem commented 5 years ago

yes, i use a lot of effects; this has to do with that i do not make a real distinction between instrument and effect. It all comes down to the sounding result in looking for textures and timbres, and the effect influences the final result.

As a side note, i took a look at Reaper and BitWig and how they organize effects. Reapers' style reminds me of how 30-year old Cubase handles effects, while BitWig has come up with a new style that might be better for Blue and Csound: BitWig Here only the effects belonging to the active track are shown. A flaw might be that only the latest active track shows its effects, it can't show ALL effects for ALL the active tracks.

Your solution of [1] - loopIt! etc. would be great and prevent confusion and definitely be an improvement.