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landgreen / n-gon

2-d physics rogue-lite platformer shooter
https://landgreen.github.io/n-gon/
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Make accretion a skin tech #158

Closed Masbirb closed 8 months ago

Masbirb commented 8 months ago

I consider accretion just a straight upgrade to quenching as it doesn't cheat hp and it gives hp power ups upon taking and I consider this a good enough nerf

kgurchiek commented 8 months ago

I fully agree with this, since accretion's release I haven't taken quenching a single time so that it wouldn't ruin accretion if I happened to get it. There's no reason to take damage to gain max health when you can just take that extra health with you, which effectively acts as your actual health anyway.

landgreen commented 8 months ago

quenching is good with recycling, CPT symmetry, ablative drones, and any build with high defense

kgurchiek commented 8 months ago

Even if you have perfect 100% defense, that still only makes it exactly as good as accretion. I can see why recycling would be better with quenching, but why CPT symmetry and ablative drones? As far as I can tell they aren't affected by max health

landgreen commented 8 months ago

CPT is the best synergy. It undoes the damage, but still gives the max health. So it's like 100% defense. Ablative drones spawns drones when you take damage. It's not amazing, but it helps.

I could probably buff quenching. An easy buff would be to raise current health along with max health increases. Also I could just have quenching spawn health power ups.

Masbirb commented 8 months ago

However quenching the is very bad with Zeno's paradox (one of the best techs) because you take more damage every 5 seconds

Masbirb commented 8 months ago

This nerf would also not affect the synergy between cpt symmetry and quenching, it would make it make it more common as with CPT you can still get the quenching synergy but you won't be able to get accretion which is more efficient at healing you once you have left the stage