cannot see regular font on Windows 7

[axd1967]

Tried to install the four fonts (bold, oblique, regular, retina) from http://larsenwork.com/monoid/ on Windows 7, but I can see only bold and oblique.

smells like related to #23 and maybe #22

[ElectronicWar]

Same behaviour in Windows 8.1 x64.

The obligue version is overriding the regular one. When I deleted oblique via Windows Font Manager, Monoid Regular suddenly appeared.

[larsenwork]

Hmm...not #22 but maybe #23 but I think it's actually something else. Pushing now so please try in ~15min when the release branch is updated.

[larsenwork]

@ElectronicWar hmm...then it's not what I suspected. Will have to check something else then.

[larsenwork]

It's currently cooking in circleci so ~12 min

[larsenwork]

@axd1967 @ElectronicWar the updated version is now live for you to try :)

[axd1967]

thx! trying v0.52 (tip: append the info you get from git describe to the version info, so you can see from what git version the fonts were generated.)

• bold and regular are now visible in the Font panel, but not oblique (nor retina)
• I can now use (I assume) regular in Android Studio.
• oblique is not visible, but Studio seems to be able to generate italic text, so I guess that's ok; but in Notepad++, italic does not seem possible, so that's not ok.

[larsenwork]

(tip: append the info you get from git describe to the version info, so you can see from what git version the fonts were generated.)

Great tip - this is something for my man @chase

Try removing the oblique and retina and install these two instead: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3019777/Monoid-Italic.ttf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3019777/Monoid-Retina.ttf

[axd1967]

• meanwhile Notepad++ does see Oblique (but Font panel didn't).
• I installed your Monoid Italic and that now also appears in the Font panel
• Monoid Retina still not visible, but I assume this is more for Apple users

[larsenwork]

Oblique: Confused as to how Notepad can see oblique if you've removed it? Italic: Great - bothers me since it's not an italic but an oblique but if that's what it takes to make it work in windows #75 Retina: Should probably be called HDPI instead - it's for all users with high resolution displays regardless of operating system. What happens if you remove regular?

[ElectronicWar]

Try removing the oblique and retina and install these two instead:

They have the same issue from my test, the Retina one hides the Italic version. Whatever version I install first (Regular or Oblique) is the "dominant" font which is shown in the manager and gets loaded when I type "Monoid" in Sublime Text. Upon deleting the font, it's removed and the 2nd installed font will take its place. Monoid Bold does not have this issue. If I want a specific version I have to specify "Monoid Regular" as font name to get it for example, at least in Sublime.

The default Windows font selection dialog does find all styles:

Windows font list "hides" the 2nd installed as usual:

Atom works properly, no matter if Regular or Oblique is the "dominant" font.

Sublime selects the dominant font when just entering "Monoid", but I can select the Regular by using "Monoid Regular" as font name if Oblique is dominant.

Notepad++ 6.8 behaves like Sublime in selecting the dominant font, but I cannot force it to use regular.

[larsenwork]

@axd1967 thanks - do you have an example of a open source monospaced font with regular, bold and italic that works in all editors?

[larsenwork]

@axd1967 and what happens if you only have retina, bold and italic installed?

[ElectronicWar]

@larsenwork Source Code Pro comes to mind. https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-code-pro

[axd1967]

After installing Monoid-italic and -Retina,I got this:

Monoid opens into

when I delete Regular, Oblique appears; NPP no longer shows a regular Monoid font.

this is messy, I now get a message that I cannot delete Oblique, while the 2 apps that were configured to use it have been reverted to different fonts. Probably need to reboot, I'm stopping this kind of testing, sorry.

[ElectronicWar]

@axd1967 You need to close the apps to delete the fonts, most will hold a lock until restarted even when a new font has been selected.

[larsenwork]

@axd1967 what @ElectronicWar said: most operating system caches the fonts so you have to at least close+reopen the programs in question and maybe also clear the system cache (mac has a terminal command for this - don't know about windows) by terminal command or reboot

[larsenwork]

@ElectronicWar what was the conclusion to all of this? (slightly confused) :smile:

[ElectronicWar]

@larsenwork Sorry if it's confusing. 0.52 has the same problem for me, as in Regular and Oblique hiding each other, depending on what is installed first, they are not recognized as different font styles by most applications and the one installed first is selected. You might want to look at how Source Code Pro by Adobe is solving this. (Sorry if my font knowledge is rather limited, I am just stating what I observed from my tests)

[larsenwork]

@ElectronicWar Thanks, I've made a few changes to meta data in these: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3019777/0.55/Monoid-Regular.ttf https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3019777/0.55/Monoid-Italic.ttf if you can try them?

Delete old fonts Quit programs + delete C:\Windows\System32\FNTCACHE.DAT Install new fonts

[ElectronicWar]

@larsenwork Those are working fine! I get the regular version when using "Monoid" and switching to italic style correctly loads the italic font instead of just tilting the regular style.

[larsenwork]

@ElectronicWar Cheers, thanks for testing :)

[larsenwork]

Will be updated in 0.55 soon so closing for now