shorthands=off breaks translation for \appendixname and \listfigurename in Dutch

[ComaVN]

When loading the Babel package for Dutch using the shorthands=off parameter, "y is no longer a shorthand for the IJ ligature. However, some command translations still use them, such as \appendixname and \listfigurename. This makes these commands fail, with:

! Undefined control sequence.
\appendixname ->B"
                  ylage
l.16 \appendixname

See https://github.com/ComaVN/babel-shorthand-dutch-poc for a minimal example.

[jbezos]

It works for me. From the link it seems you are using an old version. Upgrade, and if it still doesn't work post a minimal example.

[ComaVN]

Thanks for the speedy response.

My version, from Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (focal)'s texlive 2019 package, does seem to be ancient:

/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
Package: babel 2020/02/14 3.40 The Babel package

I'll try to update and report back

[ComaVN]

I can confirm that the Babel package in TexLive 2021 (babel 2021/06/28 3.61) does work correctly.

I apologize for the noise

[ComaVN]

For anyone else running into this issue: Babel v3.44 still had the problem, Babel v3.55 (The last version for TexLive 2020) does not.

[ComaVN]

I found another way to reproduce this, which unfortunatly still happens in v3.62: https://github.com/ComaVN/babel-shorthand-dutch-poc/blob/c80be6ca083d0ae6de19f4946ff7104e767b4b93/minimal.tex

I'm not sure if this is a bug in Babel or with \MakeUppercase tho...

[jbezos]

Version 3.8l of the Dutch style, now in CTAN, should fix this bug, as well as another bug I’ve discovered, namely, \ij was not uppercased with \MakeUppercase.

[FrankMittelbach]

bug I’ve discovered, namely, \ij was not uppercased with \MakeUppercase.

is this a bug on the babel level or should that be fixed in LaTeX's version of \MakeUppercase?

[blefloch]

Seems to be LaTeX.

$ latexdef ij @uclclist

\ij:
macro:->\T1-cmd \ij \T1\ij 

\@uclclist:
macro:->\oe \OE \o \O \ae \AE \dh \DH \dj \DJ \l \L \ng \NG \ss \SS \th \TH 

[jbezos]

🤔 Good question. As Babel is defining \ij I just assumed it belongs to Babel, but as Bruno points out it belongs to LaTeX itself (and the corresponding code must be removed from Babel, at least for T1).

[FrankMittelbach]

Babel should not define it I would say. If it is missing in OT1 (which I would be surprised if, but who knows :-) then it should be defined there and it should be included in the uclclist. Could you please open a bug report against LaTeX then?

[jbezos]

I'll open it. OTH, I wonder if these definitions were included in babel for compatibility with Plain (there are a few more, like \dj and \SS) or they are just obsolete.

[jbezos]

Continued here: https://github.com/latex3/latex2e/issues/658