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Run Microsoft Windows NTVDM (DOS) on 64bit Editions
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another stupid issue #135

Closed hdfsyu closed 2 years ago

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

so clearly in enderman's video he ran windows 1.0 on windows 10 so 2 things 1 WHERE DID HE GET THE FILES FROM!? and 2 when I ran the windows 1 setup installed it to a custom path ran win.com it doesnt work.

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

I hate my amd64 computer

leecher1337 commented 3 years ago

I tried with NTVDMx64 and it worked (Tested on Win7 x64 using latest NTVDMx64). 1) Download Windows disk images from https://winworldpc.com/download/70cc3f64-f438-11e8-9b71-fa163e9022f0 2) I used 7zip for unpacking disk images and install. What I did was the following: a) Create directory, i.e. c:\TEMP\INSTW10 b) Extract disk1.img with 7zip to C:\TEMP\INSTW10 c) subst a: C:\TEMP\INSTW10 d) A:\SETUP.EXE e) Tell setup to Install to i.e. C:\WIN10 f) When it prompts for the next disk, delete contents of C:\TEMP\INSTW10 and extract next disk to it, then continue setup, until you installe dall disks g) After setup: SUBST A: /D 3) Run WIN.COM in C:\WIN10 If you get an error about not being able to open the COM port, click ignore, as it tries to find the mouse and possibly cannot.

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Althoug practically useless, it's indeed a funny experiment ;-)

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

so u said "win7" ok uh im on windows 10 and enderman actually launched it... I will respond back to u if it works...

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

so I tried and basically the setup went fine until I put in the last disk I put it in and after a few seconds the setup crashed! So I ran win.com from admin cmd prompt (and file explorer) and in cmd it just showed a blank screen then gave the the C:\WIN10 prompt in file explorer it just crashed since im a dev I got an idea for running windows 1.0 on my pc then doing something else with it... Btw it did not even ask for a com port am I supposed to run the setup via the admin cmd prompt?

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

wait- I just realized ur the owner of this project... Sorry if im disturbing u

leecher1337 commented 3 years ago

Also works fine on Win10, of course:

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As Display adapter during setup, you should choose: 3: IBM Personal System/2 Model Display Adapter Card or Display Adapter 8514/A

It's also enough to unpack all disks into one directory, do a subst a: . and just press continue when it prompts for the next disk. Maybe you can avoid the crash this way. It only asks for COM port, if you selected a mouse during setup, that's why I mentioned it.

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

Also works fine on Win10, of course:

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As Display adapter during setup, you should choose: 3: IBM Personal System/2 Model Display Adapter Card or Display Adapter 8514/A

It's also enough to unpack all disks into one directory, do a subst a: . and just press continue when it prompts for the next disk. Maybe you can avoid the crash this way. It only asks for COM port, if you selected a mouse during setup, that's why I mentioned it.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ok so looks like doing it from admin cmd prompt (and doing display adapter) actually finished the setup and it said this: "Microsoft Windows is setup to operate on ur computer" so yay! But I typed win.com in admin cmd and it just did the same thing showed a blank screen then said C:\WIN10 again. So im thinking this is because im on 64-Bit?

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

and on file explorer it just hangs

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

I unpacked all the floppys using powerISO trial

leecher1337 commented 3 years ago

Hard to tell why it doesn't work for you. We can compare files in install directory:

04.06.1985  09:07                42 ABC.TXT
11.05.1987  15:24                 0 APPS
11.08.1986  12:02                 8 BUILD.LBL
11.03.1987  09:55            26 496 CALC.EXE
22.05.1986  07:55            37 552 CALENDAR.EXE
22.05.1986  04:23            36 992 CARDFILE.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 016 CITOH.DRV
22.05.1986  06:17             9 712 CLIPBRD.EXE
22.05.1986  06:08             7 984 CLOCK.EXE
26.01.1987  12:52             4 863 COMM.DRV
16.03.1987  17:13            52 736 CONTROL.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 304 COURB.FON
02.04.1987  11:27             8 784 COURC.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            15 136 COURD.FON
02.04.1987  11:27             7 872 COURE.FON
31.03.1987  09:51             4 649 DENMARK.DRV
25.10.1985  13:02               493 DOTHIS.TXT
30.07.1985  17:33            12 874 EMM.AT
30.07.1985  17:15            12 898 EMM.PC
02.04.1987  11:27            14 352 EPSON.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            12 176 EPSONMX.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 773 FRANCE.DRV
22.05.1986  10:48             1 961 FTG.DRV
09.04.1987  11:40            93 502 GDI.EXE
31.03.1987  09:51             4 758 GERMANY.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            37 680 HELVB.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            26 624 HELVC.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            45 600 HELVD.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            24 944 HELVE.FON
29.07.1986  16:42             7 472 HIFONTS.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            16 336 HP7470A.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            72 064 HPPCL.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            12 288 IBMGRX.DRV
09.04.1987  11:59             2 766 IBMMOUSE.DRV
16.03.1987  16:55            13 952 IBMPS230.DRV
09.03.1987  15:27                14 IBMPS230.GRB
09.03.1987  15:26                14 IBMPS230.LGO
30.03.1987  11:25            17 536 IBMPS250.DRV
16.07.1986  23:07             1 266 IBMPS250.GRB
30.03.1987  11:39             2 943 IBMPS250.LGO
11.03.1987  14:50            17 536 IBMPS2DA.DRV
09.03.1987  15:28                14 IBMPS2DA.GRB
09.03.1987  15:25                14 IBMPS2DA.LGO
31.03.1987  09:51             4 027 ITALY.DRV
22.05.1986  10:35             2 114 JOYMOUSE.DRV
07.04.1987  17:40            34 111 KERNEL.EXE
02.05.1986  17:47             2 661 LMOUSE.DRV
29.07.1986  16:42             5 552 LOFONTS.FON
22.05.1986  10:41             2 438 LPC.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27             7 584 MODERN.FON
24.04.1987  16:13             3 360 MOUSE.DRV
13.06.2021  13:22                 1 MSDOS.EXE
23.06.1986  14:32             6 242 MSDOSD.EXE
22.05.1986  10:45             1 966 MSMOUSE1.DRV
22.05.1986  10:45             1 966 MSMOUSE2.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            22 512 NEC3550.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            12 304 NECP2.DRV
22.05.1986  10:42             1 592 NOMOUSE.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 649 NORWAY.DRV
22.05.1986  06:28            18 736 NOTEPAD.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 416 OKI92.DRV
11.05.1987  14:35            90 512 PAINT.EXE
13.06.2021  13:17    <DIR>          PIF
09.09.1985  15:04             2 944 PRACTICE.WRI
02.04.1987  11:27           112 752 PSCRIPT.DRV
01.08.1986  05:59             6 680 RAMDRIVE.SYS
07.04.1987  17:57            10 455 README.TXT
11.03.1987  10:15            15 392 REVERSI.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            11 120 ROMAN.FON
29.05.1987  15:30            36 646 SETUP.EXE
11.08.1986  11:59                 8 SETUP.LBL
02.04.1987  11:27            14 848 SG10.DRV
22.05.1986  11:49             5 853 SOUND.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 630 SPAIN.DRV
08.04.1987  19:53            13 360 SPOOLER.EXE
31.03.1987  09:51             4 649 SWEDEN.DRV
09.07.1986  15:15             2 663 SYSTEM.DRV
12.06.1986  11:22            47 344 TERMINAL.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 128 THINKJET.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            11 584 TI850.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            36 240 TMSRB.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            25 824 TMSRC.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            45 200 TMSRD.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            23 968 TMSRE.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            12 432 TOSH.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27             4 800 TTY.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 009 UK.DRV
31.03.1987  09:50             4 005 USA.DRV
08.04.1987  20:19           122 848 USER.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27                11 UTILITY.LBL
12.11.1985  16:13             1 936 WIN.CNF
07.04.1987  17:40             4 879 WIN.COM
13.06.2021  13:22             2 198 WIN.INI
07.04.1987  17:40           183 504 WIN100.BIN
07.04.1987  17:40           219 312 WIN100.OVL
16.07.1986  23:07             1 266 WINOLDAP.GRB
01.08.1986  03:16            19 824 WINOLDAP.MOD
08.05.1987  10:00           192 176 WRITE.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            21 024 XER4020.DRV

Contents of win.ini:

; this is a comment, i.e. a line preceded by a semicolon
; comments should NOT contain an equal sign

[windows]
; Set spooler to no to prevent loading of spooler
spooler=yes
DoubleClickSpeed=500
CursorBlinkRate=550
; Programs entry determines which file extensions are displayed
; by DOS executive View Program command
; pif might also be an extension to add
programs=com exe bat
; NullPort entry determines the string used to denote the "null" port
; for connections, see control panel's Set Connections command
NullPort=None
; Load entry specifies what applications should be loaded as icons
load=
; Run entry specifies what applications should be run.  Use comma to
; start a new column of tiled applications, e.g. two columns.  Also
; notice that an application may be preloaded, e.g. dothis.txt starts
; NOTEPAD.EXE.
run=

[extensions]
cal=calendar.exe ^.cal
crd=cardfile.exe ^.crd
trm=terminal.exe ^.trm
txt=notepad.exe ^.txt
ini=notepad.exe ^.ini
msp=paint.exe ^.msp
wri=write.exe ^.wri
doc=write.exe ^.doc

[colors]

[pif]
swapdisk=?
swapsize=0
assign.com=1
attrib.exe=32
backup.com=64
chkdsk.com=64
command.com=32
comp.com=64
diskcomp.com=64
diskcopy.com=64
edlin.com=64
find.exe=64
join.exe=20
mode.com=1
more.com=64
print.com=1
recover.com=64
restore.com=64
sort.exe=64
subst.exe=20
win.com=1

[intl]
iCountry=43
iDate=1
iCurrency=2
iDigits=2
iTime=1
iLzero=0
s1159=
s2359=
sCurrency=S
sThousand=.
sDecimal=,
sDate=.
sTime=:
sList=,
dialog=yes

[ports]
; To output to a file make an entry in this section of the form
; filename.PRN followed by an equal sign.
; The filename will appear in the Control Panel Connections dialog and
; any printer may then be connected to this file and all printing will
; be done to this file. 
EPT:=
LPT1:=
LPT2:=
LPT3:=
COM1:=1200,n,8,1
COM2:=1200,n,8,1

[fonts]
Courier 8,10,12 (Set #6)=COURE
Helv 8,10,12 (Set #6)=HELVE
Tms Rmn 8,10,12 (Set #6)=TMSRE
Courier 8,10,12 (Set #5)=COURD
Helv 8,10,12 (Set #5)=HELVD
Tms Rmn 8,10,12 (Set #5)=TMSRD
Roman (Set #1)=ROMAN
Modern (Set #1)=MODERN
System, Terminal (Set #3)=HIFONTS
System, Terminal (Set #2)=LOFONTS

Same with your installation?

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

Hard to tell why it doesn't work for you. We can compare files in install directory:

04.06.1985  09:07                42 ABC.TXT
11.05.1987  15:24                 0 APPS
11.08.1986  12:02                 8 BUILD.LBL
11.03.1987  09:55            26 496 CALC.EXE
22.05.1986  07:55            37 552 CALENDAR.EXE
22.05.1986  04:23            36 992 CARDFILE.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 016 CITOH.DRV
22.05.1986  06:17             9 712 CLIPBRD.EXE
22.05.1986  06:08             7 984 CLOCK.EXE
26.01.1987  12:52             4 863 COMM.DRV
16.03.1987  17:13            52 736 CONTROL.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 304 COURB.FON
02.04.1987  11:27             8 784 COURC.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            15 136 COURD.FON
02.04.1987  11:27             7 872 COURE.FON
31.03.1987  09:51             4 649 DENMARK.DRV
25.10.1985  13:02               493 DOTHIS.TXT
30.07.1985  17:33            12 874 EMM.AT
30.07.1985  17:15            12 898 EMM.PC
02.04.1987  11:27            14 352 EPSON.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            12 176 EPSONMX.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 773 FRANCE.DRV
22.05.1986  10:48             1 961 FTG.DRV
09.04.1987  11:40            93 502 GDI.EXE
31.03.1987  09:51             4 758 GERMANY.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            37 680 HELVB.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            26 624 HELVC.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            45 600 HELVD.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            24 944 HELVE.FON
29.07.1986  16:42             7 472 HIFONTS.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            16 336 HP7470A.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            72 064 HPPCL.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            12 288 IBMGRX.DRV
09.04.1987  11:59             2 766 IBMMOUSE.DRV
16.03.1987  16:55            13 952 IBMPS230.DRV
09.03.1987  15:27                14 IBMPS230.GRB
09.03.1987  15:26                14 IBMPS230.LGO
30.03.1987  11:25            17 536 IBMPS250.DRV
16.07.1986  23:07             1 266 IBMPS250.GRB
30.03.1987  11:39             2 943 IBMPS250.LGO
11.03.1987  14:50            17 536 IBMPS2DA.DRV
09.03.1987  15:28                14 IBMPS2DA.GRB
09.03.1987  15:25                14 IBMPS2DA.LGO
31.03.1987  09:51             4 027 ITALY.DRV
22.05.1986  10:35             2 114 JOYMOUSE.DRV
07.04.1987  17:40            34 111 KERNEL.EXE
02.05.1986  17:47             2 661 LMOUSE.DRV
29.07.1986  16:42             5 552 LOFONTS.FON
22.05.1986  10:41             2 438 LPC.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27             7 584 MODERN.FON
24.04.1987  16:13             3 360 MOUSE.DRV
13.06.2021  13:22                 1 MSDOS.EXE
23.06.1986  14:32             6 242 MSDOSD.EXE
22.05.1986  10:45             1 966 MSMOUSE1.DRV
22.05.1986  10:45             1 966 MSMOUSE2.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            22 512 NEC3550.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            12 304 NECP2.DRV
22.05.1986  10:42             1 592 NOMOUSE.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 649 NORWAY.DRV
22.05.1986  06:28            18 736 NOTEPAD.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 416 OKI92.DRV
11.05.1987  14:35            90 512 PAINT.EXE
13.06.2021  13:17    <DIR>          PIF
09.09.1985  15:04             2 944 PRACTICE.WRI
02.04.1987  11:27           112 752 PSCRIPT.DRV
01.08.1986  05:59             6 680 RAMDRIVE.SYS
07.04.1987  17:57            10 455 README.TXT
11.03.1987  10:15            15 392 REVERSI.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            11 120 ROMAN.FON
29.05.1987  15:30            36 646 SETUP.EXE
11.08.1986  11:59                 8 SETUP.LBL
02.04.1987  11:27            14 848 SG10.DRV
22.05.1986  11:49             5 853 SOUND.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 630 SPAIN.DRV
08.04.1987  19:53            13 360 SPOOLER.EXE
31.03.1987  09:51             4 649 SWEDEN.DRV
09.07.1986  15:15             2 663 SYSTEM.DRV
12.06.1986  11:22            47 344 TERMINAL.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            12 128 THINKJET.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            11 584 TI850.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27            36 240 TMSRB.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            25 824 TMSRC.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            45 200 TMSRD.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            23 968 TMSRE.FON
02.04.1987  11:27            12 432 TOSH.DRV
02.04.1987  11:27             4 800 TTY.DRV
31.03.1987  09:51             4 009 UK.DRV
31.03.1987  09:50             4 005 USA.DRV
08.04.1987  20:19           122 848 USER.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27                11 UTILITY.LBL
12.11.1985  16:13             1 936 WIN.CNF
07.04.1987  17:40             4 879 WIN.COM
13.06.2021  13:22             2 198 WIN.INI
07.04.1987  17:40           183 504 WIN100.BIN
07.04.1987  17:40           219 312 WIN100.OVL
16.07.1986  23:07             1 266 WINOLDAP.GRB
01.08.1986  03:16            19 824 WINOLDAP.MOD
08.05.1987  10:00           192 176 WRITE.EXE
02.04.1987  11:27            21 024 XER4020.DRV

Contents of win.ini:

; this is a comment, i.e. a line preceded by a semicolon
; comments should NOT contain an equal sign

[windows]
; Set spooler to no to prevent loading of spooler
spooler=yes
DoubleClickSpeed=500
CursorBlinkRate=550
; Programs entry determines which file extensions are displayed
; by DOS executive View Program command
; pif might also be an extension to add
programs=com exe bat
; NullPort entry determines the string used to denote the "null" port
; for connections, see control panel's Set Connections command
NullPort=None
; Load entry specifies what applications should be loaded as icons
load=
; Run entry specifies what applications should be run.  Use comma to
; start a new column of tiled applications, e.g. two columns.  Also
; notice that an application may be preloaded, e.g. dothis.txt starts
; NOTEPAD.EXE.
run=

[extensions]
cal=calendar.exe ^.cal
crd=cardfile.exe ^.crd
trm=terminal.exe ^.trm
txt=notepad.exe ^.txt
ini=notepad.exe ^.ini
msp=paint.exe ^.msp
wri=write.exe ^.wri
doc=write.exe ^.doc

[colors]

[pif]
swapdisk=?
swapsize=0
assign.com=1
attrib.exe=32
backup.com=64
chkdsk.com=64
command.com=32
comp.com=64
diskcomp.com=64
diskcopy.com=64
edlin.com=64
find.exe=64
join.exe=20
mode.com=1
more.com=64
print.com=1
recover.com=64
restore.com=64
sort.exe=64
subst.exe=20
win.com=1

[intl]
iCountry=43
iDate=1
iCurrency=2
iDigits=2
iTime=1
iLzero=0
s1159=
s2359=
sCurrency=S
sThousand=.
sDecimal=,
sDate=.
sTime=:
sList=,
dialog=yes

[ports]
; To output to a file make an entry in this section of the form
; filename.PRN followed by an equal sign.
; The filename will appear in the Control Panel Connections dialog and
; any printer may then be connected to this file and all printing will
; be done to this file. 
EPT:=
LPT1:=
LPT2:=
LPT3:=
COM1:=1200,n,8,1
COM2:=1200,n,8,1

[fonts]
Courier 8,10,12 (Set #6)=COURE
Helv 8,10,12 (Set #6)=HELVE
Tms Rmn 8,10,12 (Set #6)=TMSRE
Courier 8,10,12 (Set #5)=COURD
Helv 8,10,12 (Set #5)=HELVD
Tms Rmn 8,10,12 (Set #5)=TMSRD
Roman (Set #1)=ROMAN
Modern (Set #1)=MODERN
System, Terminal (Set #3)=HIFONTS
System, Terminal (Set #2)=LOFONTS

Same with your installation?

uh yeah (to make sure I copied ur win.ini file into mine) and guess what IT WORKED! Ok im joking lol it doesnt work still does same thing...

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

the funny thing is we are the only ones commenting XD

hdfsyu commented 3 years ago

I guess this is cuz of hardware ¯_(ツ)_/¯

hdfsyu commented 2 years ago

@leecher1337

leecher1337 commented 2 years ago

What should I tell you? I already showed you my testing results.

hdfsyu commented 2 years ago

I am closing this issue, due to lack of response