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Run Microsoft Windows NTVDM (DOS) on 64bit Editions
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ntvdmx64 and the upcoming build of Windows 10 #60

Closed AEAEAEAE4343 closed 5 years ago

AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

Currently have Windows 10 Insider Preview installed with ntvdmx64 and all is going well. Well, until I read on the Windows Insider blog that there were new "experimental features". This included more fonts, transparency etc. When trying these features out I quickly ran in to the typical message you would get trying to run 16 bit apps in 64 bit windows: "The program or feature cannot start or run due to incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows". After doing some research I found out that these feautures rely on a completely new console host. (Which will replace the old one in the upcoming semi-annual update but is still in the Insider builds as a backup) I'm basically here to inform you and ask if you know about any of this stuff

leecher1337 commented 5 years ago

Oh crap... So basically this could mean the end of ntvdmx64 on newer Win10 releases then? :-( Without a compatible conhost, we are screwed. Dod you ensure that the Regkey that enforces ConhostV1 is still present? We rely on ConhostV1 anyway, ConhostV2 was not and never will be compatible with NTVDMx64 as it is lacking console graphics features.

Maybe restoring old conhost.exe and associated DLLs from a previous Win10 release works...? How do I get this experimental version? Switching Win10 to Insider preview and updating it to the latest release?

AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

At the moment it is still there, it’s just that I read that it will be removed when the new conhost is stable.

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Oh crap... So basically this could mean the end of ntvdmx64 on newer Win10 releases then? :-( Without a compatible conhost, we are screwed. Dod you ensure that the Regkey that enforces ConhostV1 is still present? We rely on ConhostV1 anyway, ConhostV2 was not and never will be compatible with NTVDMx64 as it is lacking console graphics features.

Maybe restoring old conhost.exe and associated DLLs from a previous Win10 release works...? How do I get this experimental version? Switching Win10 to Insider preview and updating it to the latest release?

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AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

After doing some more research I found out that they aren't removing the old one, they're just disabling the option to enable it via gui it. So I think the registry fix is enough. For now we can't look into the future so I'll close the thread until there's definitive news

AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

Hmm, after reinstalling ntvdmx64 it seems that it just works with conhost v2.

leecher1337 commented 5 years ago

Tried VGA graphics too?

AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

That just crashes the console. But it at least tries to start it. Text-based stuff like command.com work though

AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

Oh and anything that tries to adjust terminal size crashed too (eg. edit.com)

AEAEAEAE4343 commented 5 years ago

When running directly (not via a consolehost v2 cmd shell) it enforces V1 and works perfectly