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NoFWL Desktop Application
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Windows install without Elevated Privileges #24

Open Bortus-AI opened 1 year ago

Bortus-AI commented 1 year ago

Is there a reason this needs elevated privileges/admin rights to install? Why can't it be installed via the local user or portable exe?

AlphaGeeky23 commented 1 year ago

i installed the MSI yesterday just fine. and actually an MSI doesn't even have the option to run as admin. which did you install?

finaly55 commented 1 year ago

I tried to install the application but I have the same problem, the installer asks for admin rights. I don't want to give all rights to my PC, what rights are granted exactly when installing this MSI?

AlphaGeeky23 commented 1 year ago

I tried to install the application but I have the same problem, the installer asks for admin rights. I don't want to give all rights to my PC, what rights are granted exactly when installing this MSI?

It's all or nothing with Windows... not like android with individual rights/permissions. MSI installers run as admin by default.

Bortus-AI commented 1 year ago

Well my work laptop doesn't have admin rights so I guess I can't use this. I still don't see what is needed in the app that it can't install as local user.

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I tried to install the application but I have the same problem, the installer asks for admin rights. I don't want to give all rights to my PC, what rights are granted exactly when installing this MSI?

It's all or nothing with Windows... not like android with individual rights/permissions. MSI installers run as admin by default.

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AlphaGeeky23 commented 1 year ago

Subject: Windows install without Elevated Privileges#24

Hello everyone,

I wanted to take a moment to discuss a question that I've seen come up quite frequently in the community: Why do MSI installers require administrative rights to work? It's a great question, and I think it's important to understand the reasoning behind this requirement.

MSI (Microsoft Installer) is a common installation package format used by many software applications on Windows operating systems. When you download and install a program on your Windows computer, there's a good chance that the installer you're using is an MSI package. However, you may have noticed that when you try to install an MSI package, you're often prompted to provide administrative credentials. Why is this the case?

System-Wide Changes: One of the primary reasons MSI installers require administrative rights is that they often make system-wide changes to the computer. This can include installing files to protected system directories, modifying registry keys, and configuring system services. These types of changes can affect the entire system and all users, so it's important that only users with the appropriate permissions (i.e., administrators) are able to make them.

Security Considerations: Requiring administrative rights for MSI installations helps protect the system from unauthorized changes. If any user could install software without administrative rights, it would be much easier for malware or other malicious software to be installed without the user's knowledge. By requiring administrative rights, the operating system ensures that only trusted users can make significant changes to the system.

Consistency and Reliability: MSI installers are designed to provide a consistent and reliable installation experience. This includes ensuring that all necessary files, registry entries, and other components are properly installed and configured. To achieve this level of consistency and reliability, MSI installers need the ability to access and modify protected areas of the system, which requires administrative rights.

Legacy Compatibility: Some older software applications were designed to be installed in system directories that are now protected by newer versions of Windows. To maintain compatibility with these legacy applications, MSI installers may need administrative rights to install the software in the intended location.

It's worth noting that not all MSI installers require administrative rights. Some MSI packages are designed to install software only for the current user and do not make system-wide changes. In these cases, administrative rights may not be required. However, for the reasons outlined above, many MSI installers do require administrative rights to function properly.

I hope this explanation helps clarify why MSI installers often require administrative rights. If you have any further questions or if there's anything else you'd like to discuss, please feel free to reply to this post.

Best regards, Chat GPT4

Bortus-AI commented 1 year ago

Yes I am aware of why some MSI installers require it. The question is why does this need admin rights specifically? I don't see any need for system wide changes in this app requirements. Why can't it be designed to install only for the current user?

On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 8:19 AM AlphaGeeky23 @.***> wrote:

Subject: Windows install without Elevated Privileges#24

Hello everyone,

I wanted to take a moment to discuss a question that I've seen come up quite frequently in the community: Why do MSI installers require administrative rights to work? It's a great question, and I think it's important to understand the reasoning behind this requirement.

MSI (Microsoft Installer) is a common installation package format used by many software applications on Windows operating systems. When you download and install a program on your Windows computer, there's a good chance that the installer you're using is an MSI package. However, you may have noticed that when you try to install an MSI package, you're often prompted to provide administrative credentials. Why is this the case?

System-Wide Changes: One of the primary reasons MSI installers require administrative rights is that they often make system-wide changes to the computer. This can include installing files to protected system directories, modifying registry keys, and configuring system services. These types of changes can affect the entire system and all users, so it's important that only users with the appropriate permissions (i.e., administrators) are able to make them.

Security Considerations: Requiring administrative rights for MSI installations helps protect the system from unauthorized changes. If any user could install software without administrative rights, it would be much easier for malware or other malicious software to be installed without the user's knowledge. By requiring administrative rights, the operating system ensures that only trusted users can make significant changes to the system.

Consistency and Reliability: MSI installers are designed to provide a consistent and reliable installation experience. This includes ensuring that all necessary files, registry entries, and other components are properly installed and configured. To achieve this level of consistency and reliability, MSI installers need the ability to access and modify protected areas of the system, which requires administrative rights.

Legacy Compatibility: Some older software applications were designed to be installed in system directories that are now protected by newer versions of Windows. To maintain compatibility with these legacy applications, MSI installers may need administrative rights to install the software in the intended location.

It's worth noting that not all MSI installers require administrative rights. Some MSI packages are designed to install software only for the current user and do not make system-wide changes. In these cases, administrative rights may not be required. However, for the reasons outlined above, many MSI installers do require administrative rights to function properly.

I hope this explanation helps clarify why MSI installers often require administrative rights. If you have any further questions or if there's anything else you'd like to discuss, please feel free to reply to this post.

Best regards, Chat GPT4

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