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Mongolia rules #19

Open lenzls opened 7 years ago

lenzls commented 7 years ago

Mongolia:

1) If Japan attacks a Russian controlled territory bordering Mongolia, all of Mongolia is immediately Russian a) If Japan attacks Mongolia in the same combat move (as attacking a Russian controlled territory bordering Mongolia), they break neutrality of all strict neutrals b) This is the ONLY way all of Mongolia will immediately turn Russian without territories needing to be activated.

2) If Russia attacks Korea or a Japanese controlled territory bordering Mongolia, then the Mongolians will never join Russia as in number 1 above. If neither of the above takes place, Mongolia continues on as a strict neutral, but 1) Will NOT go pro-Axis if the Allies break neutrality elsewhere a) Mongolia ONLY goes pro-Axis if Russia directly attacks Mongolia. This would break neutrality around the world (all strict neutrals go pro-the other side). i) Any OTHER Ally can attack Mongolia directly and this will break neutrality around the world, but the rest of Mongolia will stay neutral b) Mongolia WILL go pro-Allied if the Axis break strict neutrality anywhere, including Mongolia

from http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30776.0

additional:

I have read in the forums that if Germany attacks a territory bordering Mongolia and Japan reinforces the territory it won't activate neutral Mongolia. Does the same apply for the allies, meaning if USA attacks Korea and Russians back them up, does that end the Mongolian pac?

The rule book says if Japan attacks a SOVIET CONTROLLED territory bordering Mongolia, so that's right, reinforcing won't turn Mongolia Russian. The rule book says if Russia attacks Korea. If Russia is reinforcing an Allied held Korea, Russia is not attacking Korea.

from http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30776.msg1118766#msg1118766

lenzls commented 7 years ago

more confusing mongolia stuff:

Mongolia is the only nuetral consisting of more than 1 territory.Can you have a situation where 1 area has joined Russia or gone pro-axis while other parts are still neutral?

When Mongolia automatically joins Russia because Japan breaks the pact, all Mongolian territories become Russian immediately.

Mongolia will ONLY go pro-Axis if Russia directly attacks a Mongolian territory. (all the remaining Mongolian territories would go pro-Axis) If an Ally other than Russia attacks Mongolia, the rest of Mongolia would remain neutral.

So you could have a Mongolia that's partly true neutral (but all the rest of the true neutrals in the world would be pro-Axis) and partly controlled by a non-Russian Ally. If Russia attacks Mongolia, all remaining neutral Mongolian territories turn pro-Axis.

So it's possible that an Ally (like USA) could attack Mongolia first, which would cause all other true neutrals to go pro-Axis, but the remaining Mongolian territories would still be neutral (not pro-Axis). But then if Russia were to attack one of these neutral Mongolia territories after the USA did, then the remaining Mongolian neutral territories would turn pro-Axis.

from http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30776.msg1235951#msg1235951

lenzls commented 7 years ago

If Axis attack strict neutrals, Mongolia becomes pro-allied?!

Yes. The Mongolians have to be activated like other pro-allied territories.

The only time Mongolia becomes instant Russian is when Japan breaks the pact

Mongolians will only become pro-Axis if Russia attacks a Mongolian territory.

from http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30776.msg1248945#msg1248945