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Laragon is a portable, isolated, fast & powerful universal development environment for PHP, Node.js, Python, Java, Go, Ruby. It is fast, lightweight, easy-to-use and easy-to-extend.
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Next major Laragon update? #225

Open jorqensen opened 3 years ago

jorqensen commented 3 years ago

I'm wondering when we will see the next "major" update for Laragon? I personally like Laragon for the simplicity and ease of use, however, with PHP 8 released & MySQL v8 the current download for Laragon seems quite outdated. It's very easy to update everything yourself, but slightly defeats the purpose. Furthermore, the PHP v8 update seems to break the extensions unless you want to edit the files manually, will this be fixed anytime soon?

I would love to see Laragon get a 2021 update with all software up-to-date out of the box and less "bugs" regarding the settings.

Some feedback:

  1. The app interface itself could be a little bit prettier, right now it's just text thrown in, something that looked a little more like XAMPP would drastically improve the professional feel. I wouldn't mind throwing a mock-up idea together of how it could look if you would like that. Feel free to reach out.

  2. Will we ever see a Laragon download that just have PHP, MySQL, Nginx/Apache, Redis etc. and not other software such as HeidiSQL shipped with it? I am using JetBrains DataGrip and PhpStorm / VS Code, I have never used any of the tools shipping with Laragon, they're just there.

Thanks!

jorqensen commented 3 years ago

@leokhoa Sorry for the direct ping, I saw you reacted to the issue, care to share your thoughts or ideas behind the continued development of Laragon? There's no official blog/update list for Laragon, so some insight would be appreciated. 😊

leokhoa commented 3 years ago

@jorqensen : Here are my answers:

  1. Personally, I don't like the XAMPP interface. Actually, you don't need to interact frequently with Laragon interface. Changing it will make other articles, videos people made outdated.
  2. Laragon is portable. You can even download the minimal Laragon zip file from git: https://github.com/leokhoa/laragon/archive/master.zip Then, you can add your favorite packages from Menu > Tools > Quick add

For me, disks are cheap so if you don't use the pre-packaged tools, you can just ignore them or delete them.

I am developing a new killer feature for Laragon so I don't have much time so please understand if I don't reply quick enough.

jorqensen commented 3 years ago

@leokhoa : Understandable, I was mostly curious if you were slowly considering Laragon dead / discontinued or if we would be seeing an update sometime in the near future, the interface/shipped apps are not a problem to me, just an idea. 👍

Do you perhaps have any idea when we will see the next Laragon update, maybe move towards GitHub releases instead for smaller updates at a time rather than major releases? 🤔

eru123 commented 3 years ago

@leokhoa : Please commit & push those development so we can track the development of Laragon, there are tons of developer waiting for the next Laragon release that can help on you find bugs and issues or to develop Laragon fast.

NamesMT commented 3 years ago

Sorry for bugging you out... Hope the next major would also include a fix for #197, too, detect and make "laravel new" works like "composer create-project" does?, Hope you'll get through all the hard-time developing the software and releasing it soon. Cảm ơn for bringing Laragon to us!

jorqensen commented 3 years ago

Sorry for bugging you out... Hope the next major would also include a fix for #197, too, detect and make "laravel new" works like "composer create-project" does?, Hope you'll get through all the hard-time developing the software and releasing it soon. Cảm ơn for bringing Laragon to us!

laravel new is executed from the Laravel installer, you can just install this globally via. Composer, it shouldn't really be an issue to begin with IMO. 🙂

NamesMT commented 3 years ago

laravel new is executed from the Laravel installer, you can just install this globally via. Composer, it shouldn't really be an issue to begin with IMO.

Yes I can install it and manually create a new laravel project with laravel new, but the issue is calling it with Laragon Menu -> Quick app (after modifying usr/sites.conf) doesn't work, it parses laravel as an archives and therefore opens up the download&extracting windows, then gives error, rather than opening the command prompt as with composer create-project
Tried circumventing with composer -V & laragon new, didn't spark :'(.
TL;DR: seems like you didn't read #197

jorqensen commented 3 years ago

laravel new is executed from the Laravel installer, you can just install this globally via. Composer, it shouldn't really be an issue to begin with IMO.

Yes I can install it and manually create a new laravel project with laravel new, but the issue is calling it with Laragon Menu -> Quick app (after modifying usr/sites.conf) doesn't work, it parses laravel as an archives and therefore opens up the download&extracting windows, then gives error, rather than opening the command prompt as with composer create-project Tried circumventing with composer -V & laragon new, didn't spark :'(. TL;DR: seems like you didn't read #197

Sorry, I misinterpreted issue #197 and assumed it was just getting laravel new to work overall and not from the config files. I stand corrected.

anburocky3 commented 3 years ago

Feature ideas from me:

We all know that you have lots of work to do: It would be also great, if you made Laragon as open-source code, so the community can help others and keep the laragon running & catching with the packages.

mnovello commented 2 years ago

Is Laragon receiving any updates?

jorqensen commented 2 years ago

As this issue is slowly reaching it's 2 year mark, I have given up on tools like Laragon.

I understand the author is a busy man and I have no problem with that, but seeing as Laragon is a direct competitor to tools like XAMMP I would have assumed there would be more activity on the project.

I've switched to using Scoop.sh for dealing with development directly on my Windows machine. Install the tools you need like the popular package manager Homebrew.

It requires a bit more configuration and patience, but having my tools updated with a single command and frequently (because the buckets are maintained by the community) is a win for me.

I'll be writing up a guide on how to use it for daily development soon enough, so hopefully other Windows developers can get something out of it.

leokhoa commented 2 years ago

Thanks @jorqensen I can't spend my time on things that doesn't bring much values to Laragon users. You always have choices.

anburocky3 commented 2 years ago

@leokhoa May i ask you something. If you don't have much time to work with features. Why can't you make this open-source, so others might give support and maintain this for longer period?

mnovello commented 2 years ago

I agree with what others have suggested here. It would be great if Laragon was open-sourced. Or update the website to let others know that the project is not maintained.

leokhoa commented 2 years ago

@anburocky3 : Security is my top priority to protect Laragon users. The core of Laragon is stable and Laragon is extensible. Most of the time, you can get you want easily with Laragon without changing code and updating the binary. For example: https://forum.laragon.org/topic/2753/a-laragon-portable-packages-configuration-file-kit

anburocky3 commented 2 years ago

@anburocky3 : Security is my top priority to protect Laragon users. The core of Laragon is stable and Laragon is extensible. Most of the time, you can get you want easily with Laragon without changing code and updating the binary. For example: https://forum.laragon.org/topic/2753/a-laragon-portable-packages-configuration-file-kit

We totally love Laragon just becoz of this extensible. Till now, i use Laragon for my projects and using PHP 8.1, Latest MySQL etc.

But it would be great, if we can do it in single action.

jorqensen commented 2 years ago

@anburocky3 : Security is my top priority to protect Laragon users. The core of Laragon is stable and Laragon is extensible. Most of the time, you can get you want easily with Laragon without changing code and updating the binary. For example: https://forum.laragon.org/topic/2753/a-laragon-portable-packages-configuration-file-kit

I don't see how open-sourcing Laragon will make it less secure?

The main point is also that, even though Laragon is "easy to customize", I should not be downloading a binary in 2022 and be greeted with a soon-to-be EOL PHP version etc.

There are a lot of things that could be improved in Laragon. And unless you're actively maintaining the project, I don't see a point in not making it open-source.

anburocky3 commented 2 years ago

I too feel like that. Making open-source will definitely increase security. Becoz. Every code is transparent and @leokhoa will be the person who decides what comes in and out.

Checkout all other open source tools, its the huge plus of open sourcing.