Languages Dropped in Final Analysis

[LinguList]

I just went to the most recently published file of the lexical evidence in the form of an Excel spreadsheet.

This file now drops several languages that were in there before, like Korean, Eastern Evenki, and Southern Evenki.

What I do not understand is why Korean and the other languages were dropped, although they were given etymologies.

Is this something one should comment on? Should we run a test with the languages included? I mean, it is strange they drop a language like Korean in the end...

@SimonGreenhill, @HansonMenghan, @robinryder @rgyalrong @tpellard @RustyGray do you know of any reasons why one would exclude these langauges or woudl it impact on the results?

[chrzyki]

This was also done retrospectively in the BEAST XMLs (as far as I can tell).

[RustyGray]

That can create all zero columns issues. Simon have you checked if the published version still has those problems? Mattis, do you want me to ask Remco why they dropped those languages? Cheers, Russell.

On 10. Dec 2021, at 12:56, Christoph Rzymski @.**@.>> wrote:

This was also done retrospectively in the BEAST XMLs (as far as I can tell).

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[RustyGray]

Yes, this would be very nice to ask him!Sent from the road -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: "Gray, Russell" @.> Datum: 10.12.21 16:17 (GMT+01:00) An: lexibank/robbeetsaltaic @.> Cc: lexibank/robbeetsaltaic @.>, Mention @.>, Simon Greenhill @.>, Johann-Mattis List @.> Betreff: Re: [lexibank/robbeetsaltaic] Languages Dropped in Final Analysis (Issue #16) That can create all zero columns issues. Simon have you checked if the published version still has those problems?  Mattis, do you want me to ask Remco why they dropped those languages?  Cheers, Russell.

On 10. Dec 2021, at 12:56, Christoph Rzymski @.***> wrote:

This was also done retrospectively in the BEAST XMLs (as far as I can tell). — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS or Android.

[HansonMenghan]

Hi all, we uploaded the zip file including the R code and the related data files used in our analysis. Please check it.

Best Regards

张梦翰 博士 Menghan Zhang, Ph.D.

Tel：13901887242

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On 12/10/2021 @.***> wrote：

Yes, this would be very nice to ask him!Sent from the road -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: "Gray, Russell" @.> Datum: 10.12.21 16:17 (GMT+01:00) An: lexibank/robbeetsaltaic @.> Cc: lexibank/robbeetsaltaic @.>, Mention @.>, Simon Greenhill @.>, Johann-Mattis List @.> Betreff: Re: [lexibank/robbeetsaltaic] Languages Dropped in Final Analysis (Issue #16) That can create all zero columns issues. Simon have you checked if the published version still has those problems? Mattis, do you want me to ask Remco why they dropped those languages? Cheers, Russell.

On 10. Dec 2021, at 12:56, Christoph Rzymski @.***> wrote:

This was also done retrospectively in the BEAST XMLs (as far as I can tell). — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS or Android.

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[LinguList]

Very nice, did you upload to this or the other (new) repository?

[HansonMenghan]

We have uploaded to this repository (URL: matters-arising/Tao and Zhang-Linguistic analysis on Robbeets data.zip at main · digling/matters-arising (github.com))

Is there something wrong?

Best Regards

张梦翰 博士 Menghan Zhang, Ph.D.

Tel：13901887242

@.***

现代人类学教育部重点实验室 MOE Key Laboratory of Contemporary Anthropology

生命科学学院，复旦大学 School of Life Sciences, Fudan University

地址：上海市杨浦区淞沪路2005号复旦大学江湾校区生命科学学院B603 Address: Room B603, No 2005, Songhu Rd, School of Life Sciences, Jiang Wan Campus, Fudan University, Yangpu District, Shanghai, China

On 12/11/2021 21:47，Johann-Mattis @.***> wrote：

Very nice, did you upload to this or the other (new) repository?

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[HansonMenghan]

I have found the problem that I cannot link to the github. :( I have uploaded the Altaic cognate table from Starostin database, and Sino-Tibetan binary-coded cognate dataset into the data branch of the matters-arising repository. Please check it.

Menghan

On 12/11/2021 21:47，Johann-Mattis @.***> wrote：

Very nice, did you upload to this or the other (new) repository?

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[LinguList]

that is perfect.