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Post medium articles to social network automatically #255

Open MartinDelille opened 6 years ago

MartinDelille commented 6 years ago

We should post automatically Medium post to facebook/twitter/mastodon/telegram automatically using something like https://ifttt.com/medium

costalfy commented 6 years ago

I just put an IFTTT to push Medium RSS feed on the Liberapay Telegram channel We will see if it works on the next blog post

costalfy commented 6 years ago

I can do the same thing with Facebook, Twitter and Mastodon accounts, but I need specific rights or information to do it. you can PM me if you want I handle that

MartinDelille commented 6 years ago

@Changaco can we add @costalfy to the @liberapay/media-managers team? To the Liberapay team to? (https://liberapay.com/Andy_Costanza/)

Changaco commented 6 years ago

I'm not in favor of automatic posts, they usually look cheap and unprofessional.

Changaco commented 6 years ago

@MartinDelille You know you can invite people to join the Liberapay team yourself, right? Just go to https://liberapay.com/Liberapay/edit/members.

MartinDelille commented 6 years ago

@Changaco I was just asking for permission! 😸

Concerning the automatic post, @costalfy set it up on the Telegram channel. Let's see how it looks for the next medium post.

@costalfy You're part of the team now! Can you show us a public example of automatic post?

costalfy commented 6 years ago

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eldelacajita commented 6 years ago

Let's see how that works! In general I'd say it feels better (closer, more human and careful) to "manually" share posts in social media, adding a specific comment and following up on reactions, questions and debate. When everything is automated, it's easier to forget about a channel and leave it unattended, looking lifeless like in those examples.

There are not so many posts to share anyway, so it should be easy for someone in the team to be aware of any new content (by following activities here and subscribing to RSS, if needed) and then share it across social media with a human touch, a short introduction or comment, etc. I'd suggest taking that approach instead.

costalfy commented 6 years ago

@eldelacajita hi, i think i need to clarify what's a channel in telegram. Channels are a tool for broadcasting public messages to large audiences. In fact, channels can have an unlimited number of members. When you post in a channel, the message is signed with the channel's name and not yours. New members can see the entire message history in a channel once they join. In Channels, nobody can't comment or reply with the posted news. The only think they can do is to forward this news to any chat room (aka Telegram groups). And then, comments and replies can be done. Telegram channels is like a rss reader in your pocket with a push notification 😉

MartinDelille commented 6 years ago

I think we should automate only the Telegram channel for now. Once we'll have a stronger community manager team, we could go back to the manual posting.

Posting medium article without a specific comment is better than nothing. The best would be to crosspost on all channel/twitter/mastodon a post with a specific comment but I don't know if it is possible.

eldelacajita commented 6 years ago

Thanks, @costalfy, I think that's clear. I was replying to the general topic here, which isn't about the Telegram channel only. As @MartinDelille says, the Telegram channel could be automated for now, but I think the project could aim for a more "handcrafted" communication whenever it becomes possible.

Sidenote: Even Telegram channels don't have to be like just like an RSS reader. I follow channels where different types of contents are mixed in, and the channel's author adds some value to those contents by adding a comment or a short summary. Even without the option to reply, it feels "closer" than a fully automated channel. I'm not saying this should be the case here, but it's worth considering.

trebmuh commented 6 years ago

For what it worth, I'm regularly posting on the Mastodon and Diaspora* account. Manually. It's not that often that it needs to be automated there. Plus I'm adding some hashtags and stuff which is not looking to be easily automatable. So far, so good.