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Update Development page to include packages selected in LibreRouter repository #103

Open ilario opened 4 years ago

ilario commented 4 years ago

In order to keep the Development page useful, it should be updated to the packages selected by the LibreMesh developers. Seems that they are working on the image compilation for LibreRouter and the packages selection is being made on: https://github.com/LibreRouterOrg/openwrt/blob/b536696f27b3803041dc7a2327157ef69a76e953/configs/default_config

comparing this file with what gets compiled following the instructions on the Development page, the following things seems to be missing from the development page or from the lime-packages packages dependencies:

CONFIG_PACKAGE_watchping=y we don't use this anymore, no?

CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-tun=y seems needed by Tinc, but we still are not including any Tinc stuff (e.g. https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/tree/master/packages/tinc, https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/issues/99, https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/issues/579) in the release, correct?

CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-iptunnel6=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-ip6-tunnel=y these looks related to BMX6 and BMX7, do we need them?

CONFIG_PACKAGE_fft-eval=y we have to remember to add this to the page once OpenWrt 19.07 will be released

CONFIG_PACKAGE_deferable-reboot=y should we consider to include this in the next release? (maybe increasing the time between reboot and reboot to a week)

CONFIG_PACKAGE_batctl=y beware that with OpenWrt 19.07 the batctl package will split in batctl-tiny, batctl-default and batctl-full

CONFIG_BUSYBOX_CONFIG_DEVMEM=y CONFIG_KMOD_BATMAN_ADV_DEBUGFS=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_rpcd-mod-rrdns=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-usb-ohci=y What about these? Do we need them?

spiccinini commented 4 years ago

In order to keep the Development page useful, it should be updated to the packages selected by the LibreMesh developers. Seems that they are working on the image compilation for LibreRouter and the packages selection is being made on: https://github.com/LibreRouterOrg/openwrt/blob/b536696f27b3803041dc7a2327157ef69a76e953/configs/default_config

comparing this file with what gets compiled following the instructions on the Development page, the following things seems to be missing from the development page or from the lime-packages packages dependencies:

CONFIG_PACKAGE_watchping=y we don't use this anymore, no?

Not sure but it is very handy.

CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-tun=y seems needed by Tinc, but we still are not including any Tinc stuff (e.g. https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/tree/master/packages/tinc, libremesh/lime-packages#99, libremesh/lime-packages#579) in the release, correct?

No, we are not including tinc by default

CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-iptunnel6=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-ip6-tunnel=y these looks related to BMX6 and BMX7, do we need them?

I don't know.

CONFIG_PACKAGE_fft-eval=y we have to remember to add this to the page once OpenWrt 19.07 will be released

CONFIG_PACKAGE_deferable-reboot=y should we consider to include this in the next release? (maybe increasing the time between reboot and reboot to a week)

I think it should be enabled by default.

CONFIG_PACKAGE_batctl=y beware that with OpenWrt 19.07 the batctl package will split in batctl-tiny, batctl-default and batctl-full

CONFIG_BUSYBOX_CONFIG_DEVMEM=y CONFIG_KMOD_BATMAN_ADV_DEBUGFS=y CONFIG_PACKAGE_rpcd-mod-rrdns=y

I think this is not used but I am not sure as luci.network is somewhat used

CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-usb-ohci=y

unneded (should be selected by selecting the correct board)

ilario commented 4 years ago

Ok, so basically there is nothing to be taken from the LibreRouterOS packages list, correct? The only exception being deferable-reboot.

And we'll have to explicitly (see https://github.com/libremesh/lime-packages/pull/673/commits/b8980c317f839a268dce3e92d2051ab5faaf78a6) specify batctl-default in the list and also fft-eval as soon as the compilation instructions will refer to OpenWrt 19.07.

ilario commented 2 years ago

3 years have passed and there is again some divergence between the standard packages in LibreRouterOS and the recommended ones on the LibreMesh website. We should check whether some of the LibreRouterOS project choices make sense also here: https://gitlab.com/librerouter/librerouteros/-/blob/librerouter-1.5/configs/default_config

ilario commented 1 year ago

Some info should be possible to extract from the comments in the commits:

https://gitlab.com/librerouter/librerouteros/-/blame/librerouter-1.5/configs/default_config

ilario commented 1 year ago

Let's discuss here which packages to support and include for the 2020.2 release. As a general principle for a headache-free release, I would avoid anything that was not included in the development page until now and that is not being used in LibreRouterOS (but if there are requests, let's test them!).

Looking at the LibreRouterOS list linked above, these are the packages that they include and that we are not currently recommending:

ilario commented 1 year ago

I missed the safe-reboot package:

a-gave commented 1 year ago

Looking at these:

In our CN we haven't tried these yet but we will (these should basically add some new parameters in prometheus format, useful for debugging and visualization of metrics). I think they could be added as default for 2020.2, but probably not all devices can have them due to limited flash/ram space. Not only 4/32 devices but also with others i.e. ath79_generic_tplink_cpe510-v3 if I add those packages the resulting image is too big.

Maybe it could be clearer if the Development page mentions the different set of recommended packages with a general section (as it already is with all the recommended packages), but also with subsections, or another page, specific for 4MB flash, 8MB flash, with the packages to deselect. For example like Openwrt does in this page: Saving firmware space and RAM https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/additional-software/saving_space

Currently on the site the packages listed as safely deselectable are:

ilario commented 1 year ago

Thanks for the link! I included it in the "development" page: https://github.com/libremesh/libremesh.github.io/commit/8941fbca5f668aa07831d58894a5d1d53a1d836f

Let us know which Prometheus packages you would suggest, please! Which ones are you using now?