Games with a FPS below 47

[ghost]

For testing purposes i'll make a list of all the games that have a frame rate below 47fps and that way we will know just how many grant actually fixed via the core timing changes.

[ghost]

Here's the list some wee gems in here :)

Armour Attack Aztarac Bally / Midway MCR games (already been documented) Barrier Battle Zone Big Run (11th rally version) Boxing Bugs Bradley Trainer Cosmic Chasm Demon Eliminator Gravitar Green Beret / Rush' n Attack Iron Horse Juno First Luner Battle Luner Lander Omega Race Red Baron Rip Off Scud Hammer Shanghi Shanghi 2 Space Duel Space Fury Space Wars Solar Quest Speed Freak Star Castle Star Hawk Star Trek Star Wars Sundance Tac Scan Tail Gunner The Empire Strikes Back Tutankham War Of The Worlds Warrior Zektor

[markwkidd]

@KMFDManic

[ghost]

i can get you a full list of these games but dont know if they all work as is on mame078

[KMFDManic]

@arcadez Absolutely awesome! Really happy to see a preliminary list of awesomeness there:) I will check into each and every one:)

@markwkidd Thanks for the ping:) You rock!

@grant2258 I would absolutely love to see a complete list!

And, to all of you, you can see me embarrass myself, enjoying one commit, I believe gamez-fan did awhile back, that got the absolutely incredible game, Rogha going! I do tech videos, as well as silly videos. Check out the first minute or so to see me embarrass myself, haha:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L2ZyvChaVE

[markwkidd]

LOL Love the videos, keep them coming

[ghost]

lol nice vid!!!!!

here is the list its from the mame078 ill update with mame2003+dat incase there is any more

archriv2 Arch Rivals (rev 2.0) 30.000000 archrivl Arch Rivals (rev 4.0) 30.000000 armora Armor Attack 38.000000 armorap Armor Attack (prototype) 38.000000 armorar Armor Attack (Rock-ola) 38.000000 aztarac Aztarac 40.000000 barrier Barrier 38.000000 bigrun Big Run (11th Rallye version) 30.000000 blasted Blasted 30.000000 boxingb Boxing Bugs 38.000000 bradley Bradley Trainer 40.000000 bzone Battle Zone (set 1) 40.000000 bzone2 Battle Zone (set 2) 40.000000 bzonec Battle Zone (cocktail) 40.000000 cchasm Cosmic Chasm (set 1) 40.000000 cchasm1 Cosmic Chasm (set 2) 40.000000 cischeat Cisco Heat 30.000000 crater Crater Raider 30.000000 dairesya Dai Ressya Goutou (Japan) 30.000000 deltrace Delta Race 40.000000 demoderb Demolition Derby 30.000000 demoderm Demolition Derby (2-Player Mono Board Version) 30.000000 demon Demon 38.000000 domino Domino Man 30.000000 dotron Discs of Tron (Upright) 30.000000 dotrona Discs of Tron (Upright alternate) 30.000000 dotrone Discs of Tron (Environmental) 30.000000 elim2 Eliminator (2 Players, set 1) 40.000000 elim2a Eliminator (2 Players, set 2) 40.000000 elim4 Eliminator (4 Players) 40.000000 esb The Empire Strikes Back 30.000000 f1gpstar Grand Prix Star 30.000000 f1gpstr2 F-1 Grand Prix Star II 30.000000 farwest Far West 30.000000 gberet Green Beret 30.000000 ironhors Iron Horse 30.000000 journey Journey 30.000000 junofrst Juno First 30.000000 junofstg Juno First (Gottlieb) 30.000000 kick Kick (upright) 30.000000 kicka Kick (cocktail) 30.000000 kroozr Kozmik Kroozr 30.000000 llander Lunar Lander (rev 2) 40.000000 llander1 Lunar Lander (rev 1) 40.000000 lunarba1 Lunar Battle (prototype, earlier) 45.000000 maxrpm Max RPM 30.000000 omegrace Omega Race 40.000000 pigskin Pigskin 621AD 30.000000 powerdrv Power Drive 30.000000 rampage Rampage (revision 3) 30.000000 rampage2 Rampage (revision 2) 30.000000 rbtapper Tapper (Root Beer) 30.000000 redbaron Red Baron 45.000000 ripoff Rip Off 38.000000 rushatck Rush'n Attack 30.000000 sarge Sarge 30.000000 scudhamm Scud Hammer 30.000000 shangha2 Shanghai II (Japan) 30.000000 shanghai Shanghai (Japan) 30.000000 shollow Satan's Hollow (set 1) 30.000000 shollow2 Satan's Hollow (set 2) 30.000000 solarfox Solar Fox 30.000000 solarq Solar Quest 38.000000 spacduel Space Duel 45.000000 spacewar Space Wars 38.000000 spacfura Space Fury (revision A) 40.000000 spacfury Space Fury (revision C) 40.000000 speedfrk Speed Freak 38.000000 spyhnt2a Spy Hunter 2 (rev 1) 30.000000 spyhunt Spy Hunter 30.000000 spyhunt2 Spy Hunter 2 (rev 2) 30.000000 starcas Star Castle (version 3) 38.000000 starcas1 Star Castle (older) 38.000000 starcase Star Castle (Mottoeis) 38.000000 starcasp Star Castle (prototype) 38.000000 stargrds Star Guards 30.000000 starhawk Star Hawk 38.000000 startrek Star Trek 40.000000 starwar1 Star Wars (rev 1) 30.000000 starwars Star Wars (rev 2) 30.000000 stellcas Stellar Castle (Elettronolo) 38.000000 sundance Sundance 38.000000 sutapper Tapper (Suntory) 30.000000 tacscan Tac/Scan 40.000000 tailg Tailgunner 38.000000 tapper Tapper (Budweiser) 30.000000 tappera Tapper (alternate) 30.000000 timber Timber 30.000000 trisport Tri-Sports 30.000000 tron Tron (set 1) 30.000000 tron2 Tron (set 2) 30.000000 turbotag Turbo Tag (prototype) 30.000000 tutankhm Tutankham 30.000000 tutankst Tutankham (Stern) 30.000000 twotiger Two Tigers 30.000000 twotigra Two Tigers (dedicated) 30.000000 wacko Wacko 30.000000 warrior Warrior 38.000000 wotw War of the Worlds 38.000000 xenophob Xenophobe 30.000000 zektor Zektor (revision B) 40.000000 zwackery Zwackery 30.000000

[KMFDManic]

@grant2258 Thanks so much for the list! @markwkidd Glad you both are enjoying the Videos:) Like I said, I do a combination of Tech Videos, as well as silly stuff. I did one video where I played Adventures of Bayou Billy for NES, arguably, one of the more difficult games...and, ripped apart its silly AI. I make the game a cakewalk with my tactics, haha:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQbnIkEDSIQ&t=2s

[markwkidd]

Bayou Billy was my Everest when I was young. I never did reach the summit...

[KMFDManic]

Thanks again for the lists @arcadez and @grant2258 Absolutely tremendous compatibility Update, wise:)

@markwkidd Don't be so modest, you do some truly kickass work!

[ghost]

Wasn't this closed a little on the premature side..?? we still haven't got back some feedback other than the Bally / Midway MCR games, i'd sure like to know if the following bona fida classics now work.....

gberet Green Beret 30.000000 ironhors Iron Horse 30.000000 junofrst Juno First 30.000000 llander Lunar Lander (rev 2) 40.000000 rushatck Rush'n Attack 30.000000 tutankhm Tutankham 30.000000

No hurry for this then again i should just treat myself to an Rpi3 and try em out myself :)

[KMFDManic]

Most I have tested, work great. I need to check again. But, Lunar Lander controls may still be broken. Seems possibly off in my quick test.

But, thanks again for the list, all of you!

Star Wars, once wave 4 is defeated, the Death Star run never triggers. You simply fly, endlessly, haha.

Rush N Attack and Iron Horse and Juno First all run great.

And, of course, the obvious flipped screen/controls on a few:)

And, while I have your attention, @arcadez, what is your opinion of backporting tcaveman?

Thanks!

[ghost]

@KMFDManic thanks for teh update the flipped controls are a pain it because we need to un mirror the screen the core doesnt handle this at the moment.

Star Wars, once wave 4 is defeated, the Death Star run never triggers. You simply fly, endlessly, haha.

ive never played this game will give it a bash I hope it has cheats so i can get there haha. I see your dumming and singing in your videos again!

edit *drumming

[ghost]

@KMFDManic thanks for giving em those a whirl i guess that's more classics we can add to the now fixed and playable list thanks to @grant2258 :)

@KMFDManic with regards to tommy caveman i pointed out to you a while back we are limited around what we can backport to this ole core for a few reasons, without rabbiting on basically the major memory handling update in MAME79 the huge input port changes in the MAME84-88 dev cycle and finally the latest mame code generally being incompatable with this core

For the above reasons it's not possible to support that game is this core.

[KMFDManic]

@arcadez Understood:) There has been one individual who has been really wanting it to work. And, sadly, a lot of obstacles running it:) MAME 2014 is the last MAME we can properly run. MAME has issues, and MESS has a few issues. But, over time, may be able to sort things out. But, thanks for reminding me on Tcaveman! It is already incredibly awesome that some of the Data East games such as Rohga, Boogie Wings, etc. were able to be fixed! Thanks for the response!

[ghost]

I can confirm the Star Wars bug.

If you start on 'Easy' and get to Wave 3, after shooting all the Tie Fighters you are just left on your own with the Death Star in the distance, it should be the towers stage.

If you start on 'Medium' (which is Wave 3), it works fine.

@markwkidd @grant2258 Should I open this as an issue ?

[markwkidd]

Unless someone knows an immediate fix I think it's worth a new Issue.

I see some potential starting points for investigation in the history of the driver: http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/dettaglio_mame.php?game_name=starwars&lang=en

0.80u2: Reverted some Star Wars code back to older working version (machine\starwars.c), this fixes bad trench vectors in Star Wars.
0.79: Aaron Giles fixed a problem with Star Wars.
0.71u3: Frank Palazzolo removed "bad trench vectors hack" from Star Wars which he created in 1997. Appears not to be necessary any more.