ddugovic
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1 year ago Indeed, I tried briefly looking at this; hopefully other developers looking at issues can help put it into perspective since at the moment it seems to be over my head. From that forum thread:
I play a bunch of 1/0 bullet, and every 3 to 8 games I'll start a game, but I can't make my first move.
I believe this is the result of a lag spike that usually occurs at the beginning of games, as this is the only time I ever have problems with connection.
Sometimes at the start of games, and no other times, there will be a massive disconnect. It will often say reconnecting right after I realize that although my piece has been moved, it doesn't yet say that it is my opponents turn. It will then do one of a few things.
- It may get back connection after 5 or so seconds and I can play as if nothing happened.
- It will go down to the wire and last second I'll get a connection
- It won't ever reconnect between game start and abort timer end. In other words, I can move and the game is aborted.
Of the three above, it seems like 3 is the most likely. 2 almost never happens, and 1 happens almost as much as 3.
When starting a game, the first step seems to be to connect two players together, once connected, I believe that is when the abort timer begins, in my mind, there is an additional network step between when I can move and when the timer begins, and I think it is this step where the problem arises. I imagine it would also have to occur in an operation which would be expected to take almost no time at all and would be very consistent and thus would be difficult to find. This is all my speculation, I don't really have a clue about the systems involved, but I still hope my ponderings can provide some inspiration into the problem.
It may be a me problem instead of a server problem as well, as when I play bullet on my phone with low net speed and on app, I don't have any problems, but when I play on my computer sometimes I get a major lag spike (a temporary total disconnection of computer or server) only at the start of games. This I imagine would make the problem much harder to find, so here is a bit of computer info for you.
Windows 10, lotsa ram, Brave browser (like chrome but with ad-blockers and data tracker blockers), I'm pretty far from France I think and I don't use a VPN.
... and finally:
OK, Toadofsky's post made me think, what else can i see from client-side.
Overall, today is bad diagnosis day, as this "lagging" happened really few compared to 3 previous days. Only some tournaments were affected from 9-15 EET+2
Also turns out, that recording whole session with Mozilla developer tools performance analyzer requests too much memory (or overflows memory), to get result of one tournament saved as profile.
But, i was able to catch several interesting findings, while running Lichess in special "focus mode" with developer tools network analyzer turned on First i hoped, that i found culprit, but not so sure now.
Findings so far. Quite often there is blockage on webpage loading request, reason i can not tell, but once it took 14,98 secs and this tournament game is was timed out. get socket is sometimes quite slow, often 300ms but also reached 7-14 seconds in worst cases, but looks like it does not depend, witch of the sockets is free (from socket 1 -to 5)
But, there are some get TLS session problems, and those mach more with "disconnect feature", as they are quite long -from 5-7 secs following with message - reconnecting in 3500 ms. One game i lost exactly while this setup TLS timed out - with no answer or reason to request.
All those things happened with Firefox, only one tab open. (maybe should try plenty of tab open too, to compare.
For fact-hungry persons i can provide screenshots from those timeouts too.
schlawg
Kudzu12
https://lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/lag-spike-at-game-start-unable-to-move-and-game-is-aborted-after-time-limit-is-reached?
We are trying to see if there is a socket disconnection issue and which side it is on pls can we get some help