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cfg: move experimental options to main protocol cfg #8744

Closed orbitalturtle closed 2 months ago

orbitalturtle commented 2 months ago

Change Description

This PR simply moves the experimental custom message config options to the main protocol config, so that the dev build flag doesn't need to be set to use them. Closes issue #8536.

We've gotten multiple requests for this at LNDK -- people don't want to be running LND in dev mode in production. There hasn't been any discussion on the #8536 issue, so hoping to at least spur discussion on what needs to happen to make this change feasible. :)

Tested this with LNDK to confirm it works properly.

Steps to Test

The config options set in sample-lnd.conf should be possible to set without the dev flag.

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mrfelton commented 2 months ago

Also just want to check offline with some folks to check if perhaps a better move would be to add an experimental build tag instead. Will get back to you here about the response.

Ideally, these should be enabled in the default build to make these more accessible.

It would be amazing to get this into 0.18 to enable people to leverage these features without needing to create custom builds with special tags enabled. That would help further adoption of bolt 12 through lndk.

guggero commented 2 months ago

cc @saubyk

saubyk commented 2 months ago

Trying to understand the need for this push given we are so close to wrapping up 0.18. Assuming we have sophisticated users for LNDK, why can’t they do custom build with make install and the tag? Is it because it's a "dev" tag that it appears problematic?

mrfelton commented 2 months ago

Trying to understand the need for this push given we are so close to wrapping up 0.18. Assuming we have sophisticated users for LNDK, why can’t they do custom build with make install and the tag?

I understand your concern about the timing of this push for 0.18. While LNDK users may tend to be technically proficient right now (partially because they need to be due to the current barriers to entry, like this one), Interest in Bolt 12 extends beyond advanced users, and LNDK is currently the primary path for enabling partial adoption for the vast majority of Lightning Network users who rely on LND.

I'd summarise as:

While the 0.18 release cycle is nearing completion, the benefits of broader accessibility, smoother user experience, and early user feedback may make including this change now make sense. It could significantly help to boost adoption and encourage more people to explore these features.

Is it because that it's a "dev" tag that it appears problematic?

That is a problem. The dev tag is intended to be used for development builds. Many people would not want to run development builds in production, but would want to use this specific feature.

saubyk commented 2 months ago

Tagged for 0.18. Gated on @carlaKC 's review