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Progress Tracker: Malakula Data 2 #443

Closed LauraWae closed 6 years ago

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

This is to document the progress being made in cleaning up, tagging and uploading languages from Vanuatu to the Sound Comparisons Server.

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

Files still to process:

(A filled in check box means that the file has been succesfully uploaded to the server and is playing on website.)

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_160055_Taute_09_Benwara_selected

@AvivaShimelman Hi, Aviva. I can remember that we had no database record for this one, and the following (Taute: Benenavet). Could please give the according information to @PaulHeggarty . Thanks.

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_160052_Taute_06_Benenavet_selected

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

We're go!

On 2/17/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

wl_160055_Taute_09_Benwara_selected

  • tagged and uploaded to 3b.

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LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_0010-R_Avava_Tisvel_revised_selected

@AvivaShimelman Since this is the first time we upload revised words, could you just have a look if the "right" words are now working on the website and give some feedback? Thanks.

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_0035-R_Tape_Tautu_revised_selected

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

Will check as soon as I get through my emails.

A.

On 2/21/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

wl_0010-R_Avava_Tisvel_revised_selected

  • tagged and extracted.
  • Uploaded to website.

@AvivaShimelman Since this is the first time we upload revised words, could you just have a look if the "right" words are now working on the website and give some feedback? Thanks.

-- You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/lingdb/Sound-Comparisons/issues/443#issuecomment-281322182

-- Aviva Shimelman, PhD

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT! I know I have not given you the transcription for this file yet. That means that if you upload the sound files to the site, those files may or may not match the transcription as it appears now on the site. I'll be uploading the transcriptions today and tomorrow, but, until then, we can only test the five for which you have transcriptions already.

A.

On 2/21/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

wl_0010-R_Avava_Tisvel_revised_selected

  • tagged and extracted.
  • Uploaded to website.

@AvivaShimelman Since this is the first time we upload revised words, could you just have a look if the "right" words are now working on the website and give some feedback? Thanks.

-- You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/lingdb/Sound-Comparisons/issues/443#issuecomment-281322182

-- Aviva Shimelman, PhD

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

Ok, so I will wait for the transcriptions. That means, in general, that I will wait to upload any sound before I have not uploaded revised transcriptions.

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

Right. You have the transcriptions for 5 revised recordings. I can upload the rest in batches of 3 or 4 over the next two or three days.

A.

On 2/22/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

Ok, so I will wait for the transcriptions. That means, in general, that I will wait to upload any sound before I have not uploaded revised transcriptions.

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-- Aviva Shimelman, PhD

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_150052-R_Pangkumu_Datisman_revised_selected

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_160012-R_Wala_Worprev_revised_selected

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_160044-R_Venen Taute_Alpalak_revised_selected

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_162087-R_Navwien_Mbonvor_revised_selected

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

Looks like today is a work day for you. You've got seven new transcriptions for fun and enjoyment. Seven on the way!

On 2/23/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

wl_162087-R_Navwien_Mbonvor_revised_selected

  • re-tagged and extracted.

  • [ ] upload

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LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_160080-R_PortSandwich_Merivar_revised_selected

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

Very exciting! I just uploaded a new set of transcriptions. As always, let me know if you run into problems.

A.

On 2/23/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

wl_160080-R_PortSandwich_Merivar_revised_selected

  • re-tagged and extracted.

  • [ ] upload

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LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630112_Neverver_Limap_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_East_NCtr_Neverver_Limap_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630114_Nasarian_Ngava_selected/ Oce_Van_Mal_West_Ctr_Nasarian_Ngava_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630115_Fifti_Malmbor_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_East_SCtr_Fifti_Malmbor_Dl

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

Feeling better, I hope. I'm running through the whole site now. I'll wait until I have all my comments together and not feed them in in trickles. One thing, though, it looks like Maraxus isn't playing.

A.

On 3/3/17, LauraWae notifications@github.com wrote:

wl_1630112_Neverver_Limap_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_East_NCtr_Neverver_Limap_Dl

  • tagged and extracted.

  • [ ] upload

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-- Aviva Shimelman, PhD

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630116_Neve'ei_Coast_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_West_NCtr_Neveei_Coast_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630118_Siviti_Tanmililiv_2_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_Int_Nth_Njav_Tanmililib2_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630119_Espiegel's Bay_Unspecified_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_Nth_WNth_MaluaBay_EspiegelsBayUnspecified_Dl

PaulHeggarty commented 7 years ago

Yesterday I created and uploaded new Excel Transcription sheets for the 20 or so new Malakula languages. About 5 or so were missing, however, because their 00-99 codes were problematic or missing. Aviva has now corrected all the problems.

I have now also just added the new/corrected 00-99 codes that were previously missing, so the five or so of the last batch of new languages that were not yet in the database are now in, and online.

(We have a potential naming problem with new languages called xxx 2., which may throw up some difficulties later. We'll see, but please double check that all such cases are working properly on the site, as the sound files and transcriptions get uploaded.)

I have now also added the missing languages to 2017 03 08 Complete Transcriptions Malakula 215 - Rgn 12 - New February 2017-B.xls, and put it on OwnCloud, so the transcriptions for those languages too can be put up online.

So as far as I understand, we now have:

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630117_Najit_Tanmial_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_Nth_WNth_Najit_Matanvat_Dl

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

OK

On 3/8/17, Paul Heggarty notifications@github.com wrote:

Yesterday I created and uploaded new Excel Transcription sheets for the 20 or so new Malakula languages. I have now also just added the new/corrected 00-99 codes that were previously missing, so the five or so of the last batch of new languages that were not yet in the database are now in, and online. We have a bit of a naming problem with new languages called xxx 2., which may throw up some difficulties later. We'll see, but please double check those.

-- You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/lingdb/Sound-Comparisons/issues/443#issuecomment-284989604

-- Aviva Shimelman, PhD

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630120_Malua Bay_Coast_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_Nth_WNth_MaluaBay_Coast_Dl

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

I'm guessing that I'm not calling attention to something that isn't already recognized: It looks like some languages (mostly in the south) have lost transcriptions and some others (scattered about) have lost sound. There is at least one that's disappeared: Naha'ai Toman Island.

A.

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630139_Vao_Canada_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_Nth_ENth_Vao_Canada_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630124_Uliveo_Peskaros_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_East_Sth_Uliveo_Peskaros2_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630130_Nasvang_Pimilis_selected

Note: The record for this file does not appear on the website.

Note on 17-4-4: I had named wrongly this file (as ...Farun). Changed it to ...Pimmilis. Uploading now to website.

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630133_Nombotkote_Neoleien_selected

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630140_Avok_Hokai_selected

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630128_Nisvai_Blacksands_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_East_Sth_Nisvai_Ronevie_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630129_Axamb_Small Island_selected

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630109_Laravat_Fwishile_selected (2)

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630137_Ninde_Windua/Oce_Van_Mal_West_SCtr_Ninde_SouthwestBay_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

Oce_Van_Mal_West_SCtr_Nahavaq_Loorndavo_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

Oce_Van_Mal_East_Ctr_Ngata_Taremb_Dl

PaulHeggarty commented 7 years ago

Just to say that this is looking great, the promise that lots more languages will soon be ready to go on the website. I hope you now at last have (almost?) all of the info you need to identify which language is which!

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

I think we do. That last set of sheets was beautiful.

On 3/15/17, Paul Heggarty notifications@github.com wrote:

Just to say that this is looking great, the promise that lots more languages will soon be ready to go on the website. I hope you now at last have (almost?) all of the info you need to identify which language is which!

-- You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/lingdb/Sound-Comparisons/issues/443#issuecomment-286786060

-- Aviva Shimelman, PhD

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630110_Laravat_Laravat_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_West_Nth_Larevat_Larevat_Dl

Note: Only a few recordings are appearing for this language.

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

wl_1630111_Larevat_Mosox_selected/Oce_Van_Mal_West_Nth_Larevat_Mosox_Dl

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

I have tagged and extracted now all the files from Aviva's folder ownCloud\163 selected recordings\Selected recordings.

I will start uploading them now.

PaulHeggarty commented 7 years ago

Wow, so can we watch the sound files for the new languages going up live? ;)

LauraWae commented 7 years ago

Have a try ;) : Neverver: Limap: http://soundcomparisons.com/#/en/Malakula/language/Neverver%3A%20Limap Fifit: Malmbor: http://soundcomparisons.com/#/en/Malakula/language/Fifti%3A%20Malmbor Ngata: Taremb: http://soundcomparisons.com/#/en/Malakula/language/Ngata%3A%20Taremb

(We only have that few words for this language, see Aviva's comment on #372:

"Indeed, it is only four minutes long. It's a fragment from a recently-extinct language. That's all the man could remember from his childhood. (And, frankly, I'm not confident that he wasn't mixing it with Nasarian, but he was very cautious and wouldn't commit to any word he wasn't sure of and the phonology is consistent and consistent in its distance from Nasarian).")

PaulHeggarty commented 7 years ago

:)

AvivaShimelman commented 7 years ago

An abundance of riches! I'd like to manipulate the L and Ls a bit so that all the languages are clickable on the map. Good?

On 3/16/17, Paul Heggarty notifications@github.com wrote:

:)

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PaulHeggarty commented 7 years ago

Yes, it needs to be done on the Languages Reference sheet. Can’t guarantee it will always work, though, given the way the website programme decides to place its bubbles. (That needs improving in any case, but when Hans-Jörg will get the time, I know not.)