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mintupdate: no more changelog for itself #32

Closed Mintulix closed 5 years ago

Mintulix commented 5 years ago

The update manager has nice infos about the changelog of every program which has updates available. When a new mintupdate version can be installed, the new (and nice) layout prevents this information to be shown.

Workaround with apt changelog is possible, so this is no real problem...

clefebvre commented 5 years ago

hmm... that's a good point, I never really thought about that :)

I still think it's OK though. By design it wants to update itself prior to anything else and I think we want to keep that. We could show the changelog via a widget I guess... though I'm not sure it's really needed. That's an update you definitely have to go through, whatever changes it brings since it's your gateway to getting further updates.

gm10 commented 5 years ago

If you're looking for inspiration:

(in a PPA near you :upside_down_face: - SCNR)

Mintulix commented 5 years ago

@gm10 I think you have too much time... :-D That was a quick one! Even if it was just mentioned for Clem. Thanks a lot, I'll try this. But I hesitate to put a PPA (yours) on top of a PPA (alpha-testing), so I'll wait for the official release of LM 19.2.

gm10 commented 5 years ago

@Mintulix oh that wasn't created in response to this issue, also unfortunately for you this is not something contributed to the official LM 19.2.

My PPA is a fork and more than for official LM the need to show the changelog arose because I do weekly updates to Update Manager typically and I want the users to know what gets changed (I don't have a "What's new in LM 19.2" page for that). That's also why the checkbox for automatic self-updates exist in my version. They become a bit of a nuisance if you keep them priority updates, which I agree with Clem on is still a good idea - the updater is at the core of the update strategy, you must ensure you can update it even when other updates fail, see the current gconf2 problems.

Official LM has a much slower rate of updating this application (ideally never outside of point releases), and the daily PPA builds have no changelog. So I also agree with Clem that there's no need for all that complexity in the official version. It was I who created the official version at the time actually, and I had considered the changelog question then and decided to keep it simple.

So I really only posted the screenshot for fun because it matched your request, didn't mean to cause confusion. :wink:

Mintulix commented 5 years ago

@gm10 All is fine, I meant "I'll wait for the official release of LM 19.2 - and test your PPA then". Teasing Clem caused no confusion, I wanted to try your versions of the mint-tools anyway ;-).