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colors masterpost #23

Open Th3Scribble opened 1 year ago

Th3Scribble commented 1 year ago

goals for color words:

  1. list a bunch of english equivalents that fit the space (no semicolons)
  2. have the most "central" colors be first
  3. emphasize that walo and pimeja aren't just pure white and black
  4. explain the colors in a way that it's clear that laso isn't "two colors" while all the others are just one
  5. have overlap in the definitions where applicable

loje, jelo, laso, walo, and pimeja are the main words this issue is for. we will also discuss the "bright" aspect of suno's meaning

KelseyHigham commented 1 year ago

i tried to clarify this with "dark color, e.g. black, purple, brown" but it's possible that there's another phrasing that clarifies that i mean neutral purple and neutral brown

gtbot2007 commented 1 year ago

But neutral purple is definitely not pimeja.

janPensa commented 1 year ago

I'm sure that different people have very different ideas of what shade of purple is "neutral". Darker purples are more popular in clothing and products than lighter purples, but definitely not everyone is going to think about a dark color when they hear "purple" or "neutral purple".

Browns sort of tend to be dark, so "brown" could work. But there are also plenty of common brown colors that I'd not call pimeja. Like brown paper bags, and many wood colors. Those browns aren't represented in that color words study that you found recently, because they didn't test any desaturated colors, except for very light and very dark ones.

If we want to include purple and brown in the pimeja definition, I think it would have to be "dark purple" and "dark brown". But if we add color names with "dark" in front, I start feeling: why those and not "dark red", "dark blue", "dark pink", etc.?

And besides, it takes up space in a definition that's already likely to be quite long. So I'm leaning towards not adding any of those. Except maybe dark brown? idk