Open saramoein372 opened 2 years ago
Did you run TRUST4 on the 10X TCR/BCR-kit data or the GEX data?
No, it was a different data. Is the TRUST4 on the 10X TCR/BCR-kit data for a healthy sample?
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Did you run TRUST4 on the 10X TCR/BCR-kit data?
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Do you mean you run cellranger on the GEX data and they find some CDR3s that are missing by TRUST4?
We did run cell ranger on bcr data, and then tried the same data with trust4, and we see trust4 captured more cells. But some of the cells that cell ranger captured is not among trust4 captured cells.
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Do you mean you run cellranger on the GEX data and they find some CDR3s that are missing by TRUST4?
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TRUST4 has very few filters. I guess this could be the algorithmic difference. One difference is that 10x has modified IMGT gene annotation a little bit, and I'm not sure how much this will cause the assembly difference.
Thanks. Are there any results about running TRUST4 on BCR data of a healthy sample? Or do you have any fastq files (or bam) that I run TRUST4 on that?
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TRUST4 has very few filters. I guess this could be the algorithmic difference. One difference is that 10x has modified IMGT gene annotation a little bit, and I'm not sure how much this will cause the assembly difference.
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Sorry, I did not test TRUST4 on BCR-seq much, and most results were based on RNA-seq data.
Do you mean 10x single-cell BCR or bulk BCR-seq data?
10x single cell bcr data
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Do you mean 10x single-cell BCR or bulk BCR-seq data?
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I think the immune profiling 10K-cell PBMC data on the 10x website is from a healthy donor.
Thank you so much Li! One more question: how I can assign the contig_ids to the cells in the FR2_cdr3.out?
I can see the trust_final_out. But not sure how to relate the cluster_ids and cdr3 files to the contigs.
I appreciate your support!
Best, Sara
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I think the immune profiling 10K-cell PBMC data on the 10x website is from a healthy donor.
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In your TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv file, in each chain's comma-separated information, the eighth column is the "consensus_id", and this connects to the contig_ids.
Thanks Li.
So is it true to say TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv contains all the contigs after removal of all cells with low quality? And all contigs in TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv are the filtered contigs that I can use for downstream analysis?
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In your TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv file, in each chain's comma-separated information, the eighth column is the "consensus_id", and this connects to the contig_ids.
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Not all the contigs. Even from the high-quality cells, there could be fragmented assemblies and other artifacts. Those will be present in the _final.out and _annot.fa file, but they will not show up in the barcode_report.tsv file. So all the contigs in TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv is the source for downstream analysis.
If you are interested in the sequence outside of the CDR3 region, you can also use the barcode_airr.tsv following the AIRR format specification.
Thanks Li.
Can I ask how the TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv is generated? How are the cells filtered? Because it has much less rows compared to TRUST4_cdr3.out.
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Not all the contigs. Even from the high-quality cells, there could be fragmented assemblies and other artifacts. Those will be present in the _final.out and _annot.fa file, but they will not show up in the barcode_report.tsv file. So all the contigs in TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv is the source for downstream analysis.
If you are interested in the sequence outside of the CDR3 region, you can also use the barcode_airr.tsv following the AIRR format specification.
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TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv selects one representative pairs CDR3 for each cell. The number of rows in the barcode_report.tsv file is the number of detected cells, and the number of rows in TRUST4_cdr3.out is the number of detected CDR3s, which includes partial CDR3s and also many artifacts. Therefore, the number of rows in barcode_report.tsv is much less than the cdr3.out file. Hope this is clear.
Thank you Li. In TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv, the fist column is the cell barcode, but the 8th column in "chain" shows contigs. Why some of the values in 8th columns of "chain" are NA?
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TRUST4_barcode_report.tsv selects one representative pairs CDR3 for each cell. The number of rows in the barcode_report.tsv file is the number of detected cells, and the number of rows in TRUST4_cdr3.out is the number of detected CDR3s, which includes partial CDR3s and also many artifacts. Therefore, the number of rows in barcode_report.tsv is much less than the cdr3.out file. Hope this is clear.
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This shouldn't happen. Could you please show me an example?
In my data, I see this (the second row):
[image: Screen Shot 2022-11-03 at 3.18.54 PM.png]
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This shouldn't happen. Could you please show me an example?
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Sorry, GitHub could not show the image.
In my data, I see this (the second row):
I have some rows that column 1 has cell barcode, but column 8th in chain2 are ampty
This means TRUST4 only detected one chain for this cell.
Got it. Thank you.
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This means TRUST4 only detected one chain for this cell.
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Hi Li,
I have a question about the definition of each of the output files. What is:
1- FR2_assembled_reads.fa 2- FR2_raw.out
I am looking for a file that contains all the raw reads with VDJ assignments. Is "FR2_raw.out" the file I am need? Thanks, Sara
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Got it. Thank you.
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This means TRUST4 only detected one chain for this cell.
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FR2_raw.out is the raw assembled contig file. The assembled reads are the reads used in the assembly, so this is probably the file you want to use. But I think the FR2_assembled_reads.fa file does not contain the reads from the 3' end of the C gene.
If you need more detailed read assignment information, you can add the option "--outputReadAssignment". It will create a file "XXX_align.tsv" where the first column is the read id and the second column is the contig id this read assigned to.
Li, Thank you so much for fast replying me.
What is FR2_cdr3.out? And FR2_report.tsv?
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FR2_raw.out is the raw assembled contig file. The assembled reads are the reads used in the assembly, so this is probably the file you want to use. But I think the FR2_assembled_reads.fa file does not contain the reads from the 3' end of the C gene.
If you need more detailed read assignment information, you can add the option "--outputReadAssignment". It will create a file "XXX_align.tsv" where the first column is the read id and the second column is the contig id this read assigned to.
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FR2_cdr3.out is the CDR3 information for each assembled consensus contig, and the report.tsv file is a further simple representation of the CDR3 by coalescing identical terms in the cdr3.out file. In other words, FR2_cdr3.out is a contig-driven CDR3 file, and FR2_report.tsv is a CDR3-driven CDR3 file.
How I can get the VDJ assignments in FR2_raw.out?
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FR2_cdr3.out is the CDR3 information for each assembled consensus contig, and the report.tsv file is a further simple representation of the CDR3 by coalescing identical terms in the cdr3.out file. In other words, FR2_cdr3.out is a contig-driven CDR3 file, and FR2_report.tsv is a CDR3-driven CDR3 file.
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FR2_raw.out will be further assembled with the mate-pair information into the FR2_final.out file. The VDJ assignment for each entry in the FR2_final.out will be in the FR2_annot.fa file. Hope this is clear.
Hi Li,
I am a little confused with many different files I have available. Can I ask which file contains the raw data in fasta format?
Thanks, Sara
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FR2_raw.out will be further assembled with the mate-pair information into the FR2_final.out file. The VDJ assignment for each entry in the FR2_final.out will be in the FR2_annot.fa file. Hope this is clear.
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Sorry, I don't quite get the question, what do you mean by the raw data?
I mean the raw reads, before being assembeled
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Sorry, I don't quite get the question, what do you mean by the raw data?
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They are in the trust_assembled_reads.fa file. This file does not have the VDJ annotation. If you want to add that, you can run the program "annotator" in TRUST4, with extra options like "--fasta --needReverseComplement".
Thanks Li. Is there any example of running annotator?
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They are in the trust_assembled_reads.fa file. This file does not have the VDJ annotation. If you want to add that, you can run the program "annotator" in TRUST4, with extra options like "--fasta --needReverseComplement".
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If you keep the running log of TRUST4, you can find the "annotator" command there.
Thanks Li.
I can not find any line related to annotate.cpp code in my current log file.
Would you please provide me an example here? Just the command. What input should I provide?
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If you keep the running log of TRUST4, you can find the "annotator" command there.
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You can directly run "./annotator" to get the readme.
In your example, it could be annotator -f IMGT+C.fa -a assembled_reads.fa --fasta --needReverseComplement -t 8
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Not working fro me :((
(/athena/namlab/scratch/sam4032/trust) @.*** TRUST4]$ ./Annotator.cpp -f /athena/namlab/scratch/sam4032/HL8_s1s2/IMGT+C.fa -a /athena/namlab/scratch/sam4032/HL8_s1s2/out_FR2/FR2_assembled_reads.fa --fasta --needReverseComplement -t 8
./Annotator.cpp: line 14: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 15: Required:\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 16: \t-f STRING: fasta file containing the receptor genome sequence\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 17: \t-a STRING: path to the assembly file\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 18: Optional:\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 19: \t-r STRING: path to the reads used in the assembly\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 20: \t--fasta: the assembly file is in fasta format (default: false)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 21: \t--fastq: the assembly file is in fastq format (default: false)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 22: \t-t INT: number of threads (default: 1)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 23: \t-o STRING: the prefix of the file containing CDR3 information (default: trust)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 24: //\t--partial: including partial CDR3s in the report (default: false)\n: No such file or directory
./Annotator.cpp: line 25: \t--barcode: there is barcode information in -a and -r files (default: not set)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 26: \t--UMI: there is UMI information in -r file (default: not set)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 27: \t--geneAlignment: output the gene alignment (default: not set)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 28: \t--airrAlignment: output the aligned sequences to prefix_airr_align.tsv (default: not set)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 29: \t--noImpute: do not impute CDR3 sequence for TCR (default: not set (impute))\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 30: \t--notIMGT: the receptor genome sequence is not in IMGT format (default: not set(in IMGT format))\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 31: \t--outputCDR3File: output CDR3 file when not using -r option (default: no output)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 32: \t--needReverseComplement: reverse complement sequences on another strand (default: no)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 33: \t--readAssignment STRING: output the read assignment to the file (default: no output)\n: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 35: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 36: -1,: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 37: -1,: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 38: -1,: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 40: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 42: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 43: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 44: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 45: char: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 47: static: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 48: static: command not found
./Annotator.cpp: line 62: syntax error near unexpected token `0,'
./Annotator.cpp: line 62: ` { (char *)0, 0, 0, 0} '
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You can directly run "./annotator" to get the readme. In your example, it could be annotator -f IMGT+C.fa -a assembled_reads.fa --fasta --needReverseComplement -t 8.
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Annotator.cpp is the source code. You need to run its compiled executable file "annotator" in the folder.
Sorry, but the folder only ha "Annotator.cpp". Would you please send me the location of this file "annotator"?
Thank you!
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Annotator.cpp is the source code. You need to run its compiled executable file "annotator" in the folder.
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Have you run "make" to compile TRUST4? If you installed TRUST4 from conda, you can directly run "annotator".
Thank you Li.
I did some search in my compiled folder ./trust/bin and could find it. Appreciate your support!
One more question: which type of files need the "--needReverseComplement"? I am not sure if I should add this option or not? How can I find the answer to this question? Sorry, I am not a biology person.
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Have you run "make" to compile TRUST4? If you installed TRUST4 from conda, you can directly run "annotator".
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And one last question:
The file "assembled_reads.fa" is not the contigs. Correct? Can we say "assembled_reads.fa" is the raw reads after some steps of assembly? And it is not the contigs? Amd not the raw reads?
I just try to understand the meaning of these files correctly.
Thank you so much!
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Thank you Li.
I did some search in my compiled folder ./trust/bin and could find it. Appreciate your support!
One more question: which type of files need the "--needReverseComplement"? I am not sure if I should add this option or not? How can I find the answer to this question? Sorry, I am not a biology person.
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For TRUST4 assembled contig, they are all from 5'->3', so the annotator does not need to consider the reverse complement. For raw data, some reads need to be reverse-complemented.
The assembled_reads file is not for the contigs. It contains the reads that are used to build the contigs. There could be some processing to the reads in the file, such as trimming, merged mate-pair reads.
Thank you so much Li.
My annotator code is running. I just wanted to ask for an estimation of the hours it needs to finish running. How long does it usually take to run?
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For TRUST4 assembled contig, they are all from 5'->3', so the annotator does not need to consider the reverse complement. For raw data, some reads need to be reverse-complemented.
The assembled_reads file is not for the contigs. It contains the reads that are used to build the contigs. There could be some processing to the reads in the file, such as trimming, merged mate-pair reads.
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It annotates about 200K reads/minute with 8 threads. You can specify more threads (-t) to make it faster.
Hi Li,
I have a question: as you remember I need to get the VDJ assignment for the reads in assembled_reads.fa I am running: with running annotator -f IMGT+C.fa -a assembled_reads.fa --fasta --needReverseComplement -t 8
So where the output goes? Do I need to add an output directory?
Thanks!
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It annotates about 200K reads/minute with 8 threads. You can specify more threads (-t) to make it faster.
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Sorry I missed that. It directly outputs on the screen, but you can use ">" to redirect the output to a file.
Thank you Li. In my file.out, I could see the reads. But I am not sure which names are VDJ assignments. For example, in these two lines:
A00814:550:HYJTNDSX2:4:1159:14362:5854 90 0.18 * IGKC(523):(0-89):(46-135):100.00 CDR1(0-0):0.00=null CDR2(0-0):0.00=null CDR3(0-0):0.00=null
GCAGTTGAAATCTGGAACTGCCTCTGTTGTGTGCCTGCTGAATAACTTCTATCCCAGAGAGGCCAAAGTACAGTGGAAGGTGGATAACGC
A00814:550:HYJTNDSX2:4:1159:15646:11647 90 0.18 * IGKC(523):(0-89):(46-135):100.00 CDR1(0-0):0.00=null CDR2(0-0):0.00=null CDR3(0-0):0.00=null
GCAGTTGAAATCTGGAACTGCCTCTGTTGTGTGCCTGCTGAATAACTTCTATCCCAGAGAGGCCAAAGTACAGTGGAAGGTGGATAACGC
Which of the names are showing the VDJ assignments?
Thank you!
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Sorry I missed that. It directly outputs on the screen, but you can use ">" to redirect the output to a file.
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These reads are from the constant gene, as you can see the IGKC annotation. The output format of tthe annotator is described in README.md.
Hello,
I have a question about the filtering steps are done by TRUST4? I read the paper, but wanted to know if there are more criteria for filtering the reads/cells, which are not shared in the paper.
The reason I am asking is that we want to know why some of our reads that are captured by cellranger, are not captured in TRUST4.
Thanks, Sara