Closed lizzieinvancouver closed 1 week ago
ok, quickly put together a dummy figure. Idea is lines are proportional to number of studies (I think most of the lines would be direct references to single columns in the table but I may be wrong).
Histograms are fully dummy!
Idea of SOS/EOS separate is an imperfect way but common. In the text look at the proportion that look at the key connection (GSL-growth) compared with other definitions (SOS-growth; EOS-growth, exog.-growth, eng-growth).
Colors in histograms are study types with the idea of discussing systematic biases (e.g. tree rings always call exogenous-growth as if it would be GSL-growth)
if we want to highlight the way we think should be done, we could highlight those arrows.
If we agree in this design, collecting the data from the final table and building the actual figure would be quite fast afterwards. Opinions?
@rdmanzanedo This is awesome and I can't believe how fast you made it! I have been only spitballing about how to show the contrasting findings based on methods (e.g., annual cores never tests GSL to growth) ... maybe have multiple arrows colored by method? We should NOT change anything yet, I am just sharing my thoughts.
@jannekehrl @kavs-P @AileneKane @alanaroseo @FrederikBaumgarten -- please send thoughts!
@lizzieinvancouver Yes! that's a great idea to see by method. I would suggest have a supplementary figure where we have one of this path diagrams per method, to see what is doing who (would be big for the main manuscript but useful for discussing).
@rdmanzanedo Yasss, this is amazing! Agreed with Lizzie that another layer of contrast would be interesting to add. I don't understand why exogenous factors has 2 peripXprovenance bars in the plot, but otherwise it reads well.
@alanaroseo yeah, sorry if I was unclear, the barplots are just placeholders that I made up, I was lazy to write the bar labels different so just copypasted hahaha
Update from Monday's meeting:
We all liked the figure. Some points were that it might be interesting to include what the ways to measure GSL are (following Koerner paper), whether GS was measured via EOS, SOS, GSL, and maybe some other details. Consensus was to see if this makes the figure too busy, and stick with slimmed down if necessary. Or perhaps move the histograms to a side panel. Finally, given that different study types have different arrow lengths, one option is to have the figure broken down by study type but in the appendix.
ok, let's start getting this data. We will essentially need to identify the relevant variable for each path diagram and then obtain the data. I played around with one of them (becuase I think that the grephontable.csv up there is not yet the last updated one with everybody changes right?'.
This figure requires 2 pieces of data in its simplest form: Histograms and path values:
### 1) Histograms: These are the variables I consider relevant for them: Exogenous factors === > ifyes_whichexternal Endogenous factors ===> ifyes_whichendogenous GSL ===> gsl_metric Growth ===> growth_metric
@lizzieinvancouver is that correct? @all what do we do with the very many variables (more info below)
For example, for the exogenous, we would have this:
Too many categories. I would suggest decide to simplify them in major categories (e.g.: temperature, precipitation, day lenght, CO2, soil moisture, and some other ones) and then assign to each a 'composition vector of each'. Given the size of data, this probably easiest done by hand, specially if we divide the work. It would look something like this:
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Original exogenous | Temperature | Precipitation | DayLength | CO2 | ... -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- spring temperature | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ... latitude | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ... VPD,SWP,Temp,Precip | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | ...
@rdmanzanedo is starting on this.... Make a figure that summarizes how studies have addressed this question while also showing the basic way we think they should address it. He will have an update next week, but he might very well want help figuring out how to get the info we need out of the table, and more ideas on how make this work would be great.