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Dependency retistructgui can't be installed #1

Open EPMalkemper opened 8 years ago

EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

I always get the following error. Could it be that the retistructgui does not exist anymore but is included in retistruct?

ERROR: dependency 'retistructgui' is not available for package 'retina'

removing 'C:/Users/Pascal/Documents/R/win-library/3.3/retina'
briancohn commented 8 years ago

Thanks for posting the issue! give this a try and let me know if you still get the same complaint from R:

install.packages(c("retistructgui"), type='source')

EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

Thanks for your response. I tried and got the following error:

Warning in install.packages : package ‘retistructgui’ is not available (for R version 3.3.1)

EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

Are you working on the issue? I would really like to use the retina package soon. Thanks a lot!

lschmitz commented 8 years ago

Looking into it --- hope to have a solution soon!!

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Are you working on the issue? I would really like to use the retina package soon. Thanks a lot!

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briancohn commented 8 years ago

Just ping'ed David Sterratt (author of retistruct) https://github.com/davidcsterratt/retistruct/issues/9

You can also try installing his newest version

install.packages('devtools')
devtools:install_github('davidcsterratt/retistruct')
EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

Dear Brian,

thanks a lot – I am pretty sure the package is running now. However, could you elaborate a bit more on how the files need to look like when having samples with non-regular counts? Is it just a file with x,y,z with x,y being the coordinates and z being the counts in cells per mm²?

Best, Pascal


Dr. E. Pascal Malkemper

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Vienna, 1030, Austria

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Von: Brian Cohn [mailto:notifications@github.com] Gesendet: 01 August 2016 15:40 An: lschmitz/retina Cc: Malkemper, Pascal, Dr.; Author Betreff: Re: [lschmitz/retina] Dependency retistructgui can't be installed (#1)

Just ping'ed David Sterratt (author of retistruct) davidcsterratt/retistruct#9https://github.com/davidcsterratt/retistruct/issues/9

You can also try installing his newest version

install.packages('devtools')

devtools:install_github('davidcsterratt/retistruct')

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briancohn commented 8 years ago

When you say non-regular, do you mean, sampled in another way than a non-uniform grid?

EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

Yes - that's exactly what I meant.

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When you say non-regular, do you mean, sampled in another way than a non-uniform grid?

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briancohn commented 8 years ago

Ohh, the model we used in the paper to smooth the data is specifically tailored for stereologic sampling with a uniform grid; this is typically done because this method supports estimation of the cell population. @lschmitz what do you recommend for EPMalkemper?

EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

In the tutorial you write: Note: If cell counts were collected on the basis of a non-uniform sampling grid, it is still possible to use retina, even though it takes some more effort from the user. Instead of supplying the min and max values of the sampled location, it is necessary to determine the (x, y) pixel location of every single sampling site manually. You can retrieve these location in ImageJ and save the coordinates in *.csv format."

I am just not sure how exactly this file needs to look like.

Thanks


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Keays Group Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP) Dr Bohr-Gasse 7

Vienna, 1030, Austria

University of Duisburg-Essen Department of General Zoology Universitätsstr. 5 45141 Essen Germany

Room S05 R04 H88 Phone: 0201 183-4310 Fax: - 3768 Web: https://www.uni-due.de/zoologie/malkemper.php

Von: Brian Cohn [mailto:notifications@github.com] Gesendet: 09 August 2016 17:26 An: lschmitz/retina Cc: Malkemper, Pascal, Dr.; Author Betreff: Re: [lschmitz/retina] Dependency retistructgui can't be installed (#1)

Ohh, the model we used in the paper to smooth the data is specifically tailored for stereologic sampling with a uniform grid; this is typically done because this method supports estimation of the cell population. @lschmitzhttps://github.com/lschmitz what do you recommend for EPMalkemper?

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lschmitz commented 8 years ago

Hi Pascal, You will end up with a 3-column spreadsheet (x, y, z), where (x, y) are the coordinates of your sampling locations that you need to extract from ImageJ. Z contains the counts for each sampling location. We will also need to modify the retina_object() function as it currently expects a uniform grid. As for the potential smoothing issue that Brain mentioned, how dispersed are your sampling locations? Do they cover most of the retina and are fairly well-dispesed? Thanks! Lars

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In the tutorial you write: Note: If cell counts were collected on the basis of a non-uniform sampling grid, it is still possible to use retina, even though it takes some more effort from the user. Instead of supplying the min and max values of the sampled location, it is necessary to determine the (x, y) pixel location of every single sampling site manually. You can retrieve these location in ImageJ and save the coordinates in *.csv format."

I am just not sure how exactly this file needs to look like.

Thanks


Dr. E. Pascal Malkemper

Keays Group Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP) Dr Bohr-Gasse 7

Vienna, 1030, Austria

University of Duisburg-Essen Department of General Zoology Universitätsstr. 5 45141 Essen Germany

Room S05 R04 H88 Phone: 0201 183-4310 Fax: - 3768 Web: https://www.uni-due.de/zoologie/malkemper.php

Von: Brian Cohn [mailto:notifications@github.com] Gesendet: 09 August 2016 17:26 An: lschmitz/retina Cc: Malkemper, Pascal, Dr.; Author Betreff: Re: [lschmitz/retina] Dependency retistructgui can't be installed (#1)

Ohh, the model we used in the paper to smooth the data is specifically tailored for stereologic sampling with a uniform grid; this is typically done because this method supports estimation of the cell population. @lschmitzhttps://github.com/lschmitz what do you recommend for EPMalkemper?

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EPMalkemper commented 8 years ago

Hi Lars,

the sampling is fairly regular and dispersed but regions of higher ganglion cell density are sampled with a finer and more irregular grid. I’ve attached an example map to give you a better impression.

It would be so great if that would work.

Best, Pascal

Von: Lars Schmitz [mailto:notifications@github.com] Gesendet: 09 August 2016 21:41 An: lschmitz/retina Cc: Malkemper, Pascal, Dr.; Author Betreff: Re: [lschmitz/retina] Dependency retistructgui can't be installed (#1)

Hi Pascal, You will end up with a 3-column spreadsheet (x, y, z), where (x, y) are the coordinates of your sampling locations that you need to extract from ImageJ. Z contains the counts for each sampling location. We will also need to modify the retina_object() function as it currently expects a uniform grid. As for the potential smoothing issue that Brain mentioned, how dispersed are your sampling locations? Do they cover most of the retina and are fairly well-dispesed? Thanks! Lars

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:26 AM, EPMalkemper notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> wrote:

In the tutorial you write: Note: If cell counts were collected on the basis of a non-uniform sampling grid, it is still possible to use retina, even though it takes some more effort from the user. Instead of supplying the min and max values of the sampled location, it is necessary to determine the (x, y) pixel location of every single sampling site manually. You can retrieve these location in ImageJ and save the coordinates in *.csv format."

I am just not sure how exactly this file needs to look like.

Thanks


Dr. E. Pascal Malkemper

Keays Group Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP) Dr Bohr-Gasse 7

Vienna, 1030, Austria

University of Duisburg-Essen Department of General Zoology Universitätsstr. 5 45141 Essen Germany

Room S05 R04 H88 Phone: 0201 183-4310 Fax: - 3768 Web: https://www.uni-due.de/zoologie/malkemper.php

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Ohh, the model we used in the paper to smooth the data is specifically tailored for stereologic sampling with a uniform grid; this is typically done because this method supports estimation of the cell population. @lschmitzhttps://github.com/lschmitz what do you recommend for EPMalkemper?

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