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Should we replace Mailman2 with an alternative? #3

Open JonTheNiceGuy opened 4 years ago

JonTheNiceGuy commented 4 years ago

Mailman3 has, I seem to recall, significant issues, and is far from "feature complete" compared to what we want.

An alternative I'm looking into is replacing Mailman2 with Discourse. I know that HacMan moved from Mailman2 to Discourse, and it's entirely possible to do this, including importing the full mbox files from the existing mailman instances. (Reason for looking at this)

Now, one criticism I've seen about even editing the mailman2 indexes is that quite often the indexes are referred to in external indexes. It's possible (although, to be fair, I don't know how much work it would entail) to set up redirect links to the discourse site for those links which would be "lost".

Perhaps one other alternative would be to offer the option to the lugs - migrate to Discourse, or stick with Mailman... but that then means maintaining two systems.

RalphCorderoy commented 4 years ago

I've no experience of Discourse. I am used to everything funnelling through email: mailing lists, RSS feeds, etc. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-vs-email-mailing-lists/54298 says Discourse can be used as a mailing list if configured appropriately.

Discourse could attract users who like to point and click, slowly. We'd need to be careful not to push away those who will only use a mailing list, not a web forum, because they may be the key experienced users who provide much assistance within the LUG's online community.

Offering both would increase maintenance. But I assume mandating all LUGs switch would make some LUGs unhappy.

gwestwood commented 4 years ago

I'm neutral on this as my only mailing list experience is Mailman, but I agree that Mailman 2 and the associated web archive tool is showing its age so I'm open to change if it can be demonstrated that the replacement has the same features (that we use) but is an improvement over Mailman 2.

JonTheNiceGuy commented 4 years ago

Maybe we push the decision on this one back a bit!

gwestwood commented 1 year ago

With the removal of Mailman 2 in the Bookworm (Debian 12) release, the clock is now ticking on us choosing a migration path (be that Mailman 3 or something else).

RalphCorderoy commented 1 year ago

As a datum, BitFolk plumped for Mailman 3. https://mailman.bitfolk.com/mailman/postorius/lists/