Engine Controller Support

[d10sfan]

For using controllers in the engine itself, ensure that Steam Input is enabled, that a gamepad profile has been set, and that the Steam Input controller-specific option has been enabled, such as for Xbox or Playstation controllers.

Controller Default Config Improvements To-Do

• [x] vkQuake
• [x] quakespasm-spiked
• [x] ironwail
• [x] gzdoom, raze, WIGZDoom - https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1109954#p1109954
• [x] Yamagi Quake II
• [x] Test on Xbox and PS Controllers

[Jpxe]

I can test controller support if you want. What information do you need?

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

Thanks! Mainly trying to see for each game the following:

• If the engine has built in controller support and if so if there's any necessary manual configuration changes. If there are any configuration changes, if they can be preset, by providing a filled out configuration as part of the engine. Also that the steam input settings don't interfere or cause issues with it.
• If an engine does not have controller support, how well it handles with the emulation from steam input.

If you have any findings of any of the engine games, feel free to comment here.

[Jpxe]

Here's a first quick test, using luxtorpeda runtime (using v37, got error trying to update from AUR) and a Dual Shock 3 controller. This is tested without using steam input, I will try that later.

Works out-of-the-box

Both controller, menus and steam overlay work great

• Flashback
• ScummVM / Beneath a Steal Sky
• OpenLara / Tomb Raider I
• ecwolf / Wolfenstein 3D

Kinda works

• OpenMW / Elder Scrolls Morrowind - controller works good out-of-the-box but that engine has a launcher that doesn't work with controller, also the game seems to require mouse and keyboard for some inputs like names.
• terminal-recall / Terminal Velocity - GUI doesn't support controller, controller works great in game
• Doomsday - movement worked out of the box, menus didn't work, fireing and other needed config
• OpenJK - can be enabled in game setting, I couldn't get mouse look/camera control to work

Doesn't work

Not yet tested with steam input emulation

• Arx Fatalis - doesn't seem to have controller support in options
• Rise of the triad - there's a joystick option in the menu but it's greyed out
• Bstone - doesn't seem to have controller support
• avp - there's a joystick option in the menu but I can't get it to work
• blood - there's a joystick option in the menu but I can't get it to work
• Cortex Command - recognizes controller but keeps scrolling the menus when enabled
• Daikatana - there's a joystick option in the menu but I can't get it to work
• Doki Doki Literature Club / ren'py - doesn't seem to have controller support
• Gzdoom - recognizes controller but keeps scrolling the menus when enabled
• chocolate doom - no support available as far as I can tell
• prboom-plus - has joystick option in the menu but doesn't seem to work/can't configure
• doom3 - doesn't seem to have support
• unreal gold - doesn't work out of the box, has some config options to try
• warzone 2100 - doesn't seem to have any support
• openxcom - doesn't seem to have controller support
• duke nukem 3d world tour / eduke32 - recognizes controller but keeps scrolling the menus when enabled
• quake 4 doesn't seem to support controller
• Thimbleweed Park / engge - controller option in menu but it's greyed out / not selectable

Other errors

• etqw - demo not in correct location error
• Ion fury - gives error message. has launcher that doesn't support controller. joystick selectable in launcher
• Tomb Raider II / OpenTomb - freezes and can't start

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio Thanks for the information. Let me know what you end up finding out about steam input and their emulation mode as well.

ETQW requires you to manually put the demo in the right place.

Not sure on the other two errors you mentioned. If you could provide what Ion Fury is giving for the error you're seeing and any logs you can provide for tomb raider II.

[Jpxe]

I've made a spreadsheet where I or anyone can enter the results of the testing. I believe the included columns are what needs to be tested to measure good controller support, check it out and edit the spreadsheet or let me know if I should add something else.

Google spreadsheet link

[d10sfan]

Thanks that looks like a good starting point, I'll look through your list when I have a chance

[Jpxe]

Here's more info on the errors I got earlier

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars: I download the demo in steam, I launch it using regular proton and install it and punkbuster, then i enter the game folder, mkdir demo/ and then cp *.* demo/ and then run it with luxtorpeda. It still gives me "demo not in correct location error" so I guess I'm doing something wrong?

Tomb Raider II works, I just didn't get that engines GUI controls (down not working directly, having to press ctrl to select instead of enter)

Ion Fury opens the EDuke32 launcher, when I press start it crashes with "Error compiling CON files"

[Jpxe]

Here are the log files for every game that won't launch for me.

• Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition with EDuke32 - it just crashes immediately no launcher or nothing.
• Ion Fury with EDuke32
• Enemy Territory Demo
• Entropy: Zero - crashes shortly after start. Other Source SDK 2013 games seems to work fine so it might perhaps be related to this one having a video playing at the start. It also doesn't work for me with Proton GE or Proton Experimental, only with 6.3-7.
• Old School RuneScape with runelite - crashes immediately with runelite, works with Proton.
• Resistance Element - Gives error msg. See screnshot and log. I get the same problem running it in Proton.
• Retroninjacyberassassin with Zandronum - crashes immediately

[Jpxe]

Do you want me to make separate issues for each engine/game perhaps? Let me know what you prefer :smile:

[d10sfan]

This is fine for now, I'll investigate the errors you're seeing when i have a chance.

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

For ETQW, you have to download the linux demo and copy the files from it to the right location, that's what that error means. It's described further here: https://luxtorpeda-dev.github.io/

I'll look into the others ones soon.

[Jpxe]

For ETQW, you have to download the linux demo and copy the files from it to the right location, that's what that error means. It's described further here: https://luxtorpeda-dev.github.io/

Okay I got it to work now, thanks! Maybe you could clarify on the webpage that the demo should be downloaded outside of Steam, that's the part that confused me. Also I get black screen after applying settings, like your webpage states, but how do I exit in a way that the settings are saved? the resolution just goes back to low when i restart..

I've updated the spreadsheet with some more games, but I still have more to test.

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

I added some additional detail for the ETQW issue and fixed the megaton script here: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/292da912d3458e2e8110612047b42ee371a52e3c

So next time you run you should see that fix. I'll let you know once I have some more information on the rest. On ETQW, you may need to change the settings manually for them to take affect.

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

By the way, if you could try to keep the log files to one launch attempt at a time (clearing the Terminal before launching is usually the easiest).

• Runelite works ok for me, you may want to check the ~/.cache/.luxtorpeda folder for the app id and remove anything there, then try it again.
• Entropy Zero works fine for me. You could try adding the -novid command to the launch options, although it does not try to play a video for me. These lines are rather interesting. The runtime should mean that there isn't any difference in the environment, so that might mean that you're missing some files somewhere.

  Error 10 occurred attempting to play video file media/bmannew.avi
  Error 8 occurred attempting to play video file media/valve.avi

• For Resistance Element, this looks like the log for eduke32, so there should be a different one. Although that error seems to indicate that you are missing files.
• Ion Fury is fixed, updating to the latest eduke32 fixed that issue.
• Retroninja game should be fixed by: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/8fb5ba8c3897a9af9865fd7a619bd4fb159220e2

I like the look of your spreadsheet so far, if you could also add a column there if you needed to change the steam input or not to make it work (like switching it from keyboard to controller). Also, for the ones talking about custom steam input, did that mean you had to come up with a whole new layout because the default keys didn't match what was possible with the default keyboard/mouse input?

[Jpxe]

By the way, if you could try to keep the log files to one launch attempt at a time (clearing the Terminal before launching is usually the easiest).

Let me know if it's okay now

Runelite works ok for me, you may want to check the ~/.cache/.luxtorpeda folder for the app id and remove anything there, then try it again.

I removed the 1343370 folder in cache and tested it with "Test Build Luxtorpeda #88" - it downloaded runelite and then crashed. Here's the log: https://gist.github.com/ToughGuyKunio/ecd19ccf9c85f0be3925b8d1b8747a59 I also tested and ran RuneLite.AppImage manually from /home/zorlim/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Old School RuneScape/bin/win64/ and it's there and it works, so something else must be going wrong.

Entropy Zero works fine for me. You could try adding the -novid command to the launch options, although it does not try to play a video for me. These lines are rather interesting. The runtime should mean that there isn't any difference in the environment, so that might mean that you're missing some files somewhere.

 Error 10 occurred attempting to play video file media/bmannew.avi
 Error 8 occurred attempting to play video file media/valve.avi

I uninstalled Entropy Zero, manually deleted the folder from Steam, re-installed and added -novid. It launches to the menu and then crashes. Here's the log: https://gist.github.com/ToughGuyKunio/dc4740c1e9523324d95f174e11a6bfdf

Should I try reinstallting Source SDK maybe?

For Resistance Element, this looks like the log for eduke32, so there should be a different one. Although that error seems to indicate that you are missing files.

I re-installed Resistance Element. It launches to a Half-Life 2 menu, but there's nothing when I press new game. Here's a new log: https://gist.github.com/ToughGuyKunio/d7186dfa6e880668c89f03d80f1913f0 Screenshot attached.

Launching the game with regular Proton 6.3-7 gives a error msg about missing gameinfo.txt, found some info on it here: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Missing_GameInfo.txt - I'll try testing some things out and see if I can figure it out.

Ion Fury is fixed, updating to the latest eduke32 fixed that issue.

Ion Fury works for me now.

Retroninja game should be fixed by: 8fb5ba8

Works for me now.

I like the look of your spreadsheet so far, if you could also add a column there if you needed to change the steam input or not to make it work (like switching it from keyboard to controller). Also, for the ones talking about custom steam input, did that mean you had to come up with a whole new layout because the default keys didn't match what was possible with the default keyboard/mouse input?

Okay I'll try adding that. Mostly you can get by using wasd+mouse template and then add some missing buttons and lower the mouse sensativity.

[Jpxe]

I think I've found the issue with Resistance Element. It had created two folders, one called ResistanceElement and one called resistanceelement - all lowercase. By copying the files from one to the other it started working. So I guess it's an issue with Linux being case-sensitive and Windows being case-insensitive? Is it possible to make the runtime case-insensitive?

[Jpxe]

Got a bit further on Entropy Zero, there's a file called startupvids.txt - it contained the following rows:

media/BmanNew.avi
media/Valve.avi

but the actual files are not avi. instead they are .bik, by changing content in the textfile to .bik the videos started playing fine, but it still crashes after that.

New log: https://gist.github.com/ToughGuyKunio/5930509106df4537c3a06119ebac2429

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

What file system do you have?

For resistance element, there's a check already in the script for one folder or the other (https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/blob/master/engines/source-sdk-2013/assets/resistance-element/run-resistance-element.sh#L138). I've never seen it where there's both. Can you uninstall it, remove every file in the directory and then install it again, picking Luxtorpeda? Then before launching anything, take a screenshot of your directory listing.

It's hard to tell what's going on in the Entropy Zero case, it works fine for me and it's running inside the steam runtime inside runtime soldier, so your system shouldn't affect, but do you have 32-bit libraries installed, such as any graphics ones and the like?

It is looking for ./run-runelite-extract.sh: line 4: ./RuneLite.AppImage: No such file or directory "RuneLite.AppImage", so did you verify if the file is there and with that name? Can you take a screenshot of your directory listing?

[Jpxe]

What file system do you have?

EXT4

For resistance element, there's a check already in the script for one folder or the other (https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/blob/master/engines/source-sdk-2013/assets/resistance-element/run-resistance-element.sh#L138). I've never seen it where there's both. Can you uninstall it, remove every file in the directory and then install it again, picking Luxtorpeda? Then before launching anything, take a screenshot of your directory listing.

It's hard to tell what's going on in the Entropy Zero case, it works fine for me and it's running inside the steam runtime inside runtime soldier, so your system shouldn't affect, but do you have 32-bit libraries installed, such as any graphics ones and the like?

Yes 32-bit should be installed

It is looking for ./run-runelite-extract.sh: line 4: ./RuneLite.AppImage: No such file or directory "RuneLite.AppImage", so did you verify if the file is there and with that name? Can you take a screenshot of your directory listing?

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio ok for resistance element, that looks normal. Try launching now and see if it works. Then take another screenshot of the structure if not.

[Jpxe]

Resistance Element works now! Hmm maybe it's depended on if you run it with Proton or Luxtorpeda the first time?

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio most likely since wine is probably handling some case insensitive issue that windows normally brings. So it sounds like it works as long as you launch it from luxtorpeda first.

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio I can't replicate that issue you're having with runelite. You may want to change the script as a test to do echo $PWD as part of it's processing (you can edit the one in the cached xz file in ~/.cache/luxtorpeda/appid). That would tell me more about what might be happening.

For Entropy Zero, you may want to try the same thing you did for resistance, where you remove everything, uninstall, and then launch it with lux.

[Jpxe]

@d10sfan

Okay I don't think I understand completely but I did it like this:

cd ~/.cache/luxtorpeda/1343370/
tar xJf runelite-1343370-2.tar.xz    

That created a folder called dist/

I edited the run-runelite.sh from dist/ to include echo $PWD

I ran the script ./run-runelite.sh

Here's the output:

./run-runelite.sh                                                                                              ✔ 
/home/zorlim/.cache/luxtorpeda/1343370/dist
chmod: cannot access 'RuneLite.AppImage': No such file or directory
./run-runelite.sh: line 5: ./RuneLite.AppImage: No such file or directory

I then copyied the run-runelite.sh to /home/zorlim/.cache/luxtorpeda/1343370/ (where the appimage is located) and there it ran fine.

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I found a solution!

I opened /home/zorlim/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Old School RuneScape/bin/win64/ and then i ran ./run-runelite-extract.sh from the terminal. That created a squashfs-root folder that wasn't there before and then it launched Runelite. After that it works in Steam

[Jpxe]

@d10sfan

as for Entropy Zero I tried the following:

1. Uninstall from Steam
2. Removed Entropy Zero folder from ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/
3. Removed 714070 folder from ~/.cache/luxtorpeda/
4. Checked that it was set to Luxtorpeda in steam
5. re-downloaded
6. run
7. still crashes at menu

##### swap interval = 0     swap limit = 1 #####
Ignoring out-of-date shader cache (glbaseshaders.cfg) with root key glshadercache
Could not find base GL shader cache file
Could not load program cache file glshaders.cfg
Could not find user GL shader cache file
Precache: Took 2 ms, Vertex 0, Pixel 0
ConVarRef mat_dxlevel doesn't point to an existing ConVar
server.so loaded for "Half-Life 2"
crash_20211110111719_2.dmp[26362]: Uploading dump (out-of-process)
/tmp/dumps/crash_20211110111719_2.dmp
crash_20211110111719_2.dmp[26362]: Finished uploading minidump (out-of-process): success = yes
crash_20211110111719_2.dmp[26362]: response: CrashID=bp-34758c40-c4ed-47af-b2a6-40b5c2211110
crash_20211110111719_2.dmp[26362]: file ''/tmp/dumps/crash_20211110111719_2.dmp'', upload yes: ''CrashID=bp-34758c40-c4ed-47af-b2a6-40b5c2211110''
/home/zorlim/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Source SDK Base 2013 Singleplayer/hl2.sh: line 67: 26258 Segmentation fault      (core dumped) ${GAME_DEBUGGER} "${GAMEROOT}"/${GAMEEXE} "$@"

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

For runelite, the idea would be that you would put that edited file back in the xz file and then have it run through luxtorpeda. That will see where it thinks it is running, which may help to diagnose it.

For Entropy Zero, you may want to make sure you're on source sdk 2013 beta, other than that, not sure what could cause that. Let me know if you end up finding any fixes for t hat.

[Jpxe]

@ToughGuyKunio

For runelite, the idea would be that you would put that edited file back in the xz file and then have it run through luxtorpeda. That will see where it thinks it is running, which may help to diagnose it.

Here's the output:

run: "./run-runelite-extract.sh" with args: [] []
run-runelite-extract is at
/home/zorlim/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Old School RuneScape/bin/win64
./run-runelite-extract.sh: line 6: ./RuneLite.AppImage: No such file or directory
pid 48849 != 48847, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)

For Entropy Zero, you may want to make sure you're on source sdk 2013 beta, other than that, not sure what could cause that. Let me know if you end up finding any fixes for t hat.

Switching to the beta fixed the issue

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

See if replacing the script in the archive with the following fixes it:

#!/bin/bash

DIR="$( cd "$( dirname "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}" )" >/dev/null 2>&1 && pwd )"
cd "$DIR"

chmod +x RuneLite.AppImage
LD_LIBRARY_PATH="" ./RuneLite.AppImage --appimage-extract
./squashfs-root/RuneLite

[Jpxe]

Didn't work

installing: runelite-1343370-2
install: "run-runelite-extract.sh"
install: "run-runelite.sh"
install: "runelite-1343370-2.tar.xz"
copying: RuneLite.AppImage
dropping: "/run/user/1000/luxtorpeda/1343370.pid"
sending close to run context thread
run: "./run-runelite-extract.sh" with args: [] []
pid 7203 != 7202, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
./run-runelite-extract.sh: line 7: ./RuneLite.AppImage: No such file or directory
pid 7206 != 7202, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
./run-runelite-extract.sh: line 8: ./squashfs-root/RuneLite: No such file or directory
pid 7207 != 7202, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
run returned with exit status: 127

[Jpxe]

I've finished testing most of the lux games I have. In preparation for the Steam Deck I've also added the tests from the Steam Deck Verified partner page and also "simultaneous mouse and gamepad support" that seem useful to people with steam controller (and propably steam deck).

Some stuff like "text is legible" have to wait until I get the Steam Deck. Also some fields are not filled in yet, because I've made changes in what I've tested along the way. All the games and engines where tested with the Dual Shock 3 controller, It would propably be useful to test with an Xbox controller and Steam Controller/Steam Deck as well.

Most engines doesn't seem to support native controller, at least not with Dual Shock 3, so I guess there's not much that can be done with configuration file changes. Would it be possible to change steam input from luxtorpeda? That could be useful.

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[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

Thanks for that, that's looking really good. I'll investigate to see if it may be possible to automatically mess with steam input, and see what's possible in terms of any default configurations that have good controller support.

I'll eventually have some controller support notes on the compatibility list page, so this will help alot to get that started.

For the runelite issue, let me know if you end up figuring out a version of the script that works out of the box. Since I can't replicate, it'll be difficult for me to fix.

[Jpxe]

The Switch Pro Controller works as expected with Steam input disabled. When it's enabled the d-pad jumps two rows at a time and it also sometimes brings up the on-screen keyboard.

Here's the output with "Switch Pro configuration support" and "Use Nintendo button layout" enabled:

• First test - https://gist.github.com/ToughGuyKunio/50023783d85ecae51a459703d2957dde
• Second test - https://gist.github.com/ToughGuyKunio/4d32918ff4c154bb62109adf44800077

On the second test it also brought up the on screen keyboard for some reason.

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As for the button layout and order, I think it should be either:

• [(B) Cancel] [(A) Ok] or
• [(B) Ok] [(A) Cancel]

Nintendo and Steam uses the first one, Steam can enable the second one when steam input is enabled. My suggestion would be to use the first one as default and maybe allow the second one to be configured like you said on discord.

[d10sfan]

@ToughGuyKunio

Moved your comment here for progress: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/luxtorpeda/pull/122

[d10sfan]

To give an update on this, my plan is to work on the following once I have some time:

• Look at games that already have controller support (using testing and the above notes) and add compatibility notes to the engines metadata.
• Look at games that already have controller support but need additional configuration in-game and see where it could be provided by default.
• Look at games that have no controller support and where steam input isn't correct for the game. See if there's a way to work around that.
• See if there's ways to allow cloud saves with the games. Provide icon for cloud save support.

[d10sfan]

I've added a cloud icon with this commit: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/352c7a1f5ede7d97ba562e54dd66a526eb3608f3

So far, this only shows if a game supports cloud saves in general or not. Eventually, this will also be added to for the games that do support cloud saves, whether or not the engines provided can interface with that in some way.

I'll be looking at controller support in the future as well.

[d10sfan]

@Jpxe Thanks for the help with the controller support investigation.

I've added metadata for controller support and the web UI (https://luxtorpeda-dev.github.io/) now reflects it. The icon is based on the default controller support for the game and the engine's support. Clicking on a different engine will change the icon. There's the following states for controller support (hovering over the icon will describe it):

• Engine Does Not Have Native Controller Support
• Engine Has Native Controller Support And Works Out of the Box
• Engine Has Native Controller Support But Needs Manual In-Game Settings
• Engine Has Native Controller Support But Needs Manual Steam Settings
• Engine Has Native Controller Support But Needs Manual In-Game and Steam Settings

The ones with manual in-game settings are where there will be improvements in the future, to try and provide default configurations with valid controller configurations, such as with quake or gzdoom. Any help would be appreciated if anyone wants to help out with that as well. Also, let me know if any of the information does not look correct.

[d10sfan]

Improvements for the Quake engines:

https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/2706bc5d6fa51a04bf681e173ef7175cc57c26cc https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/21c160cdcc52eb3441c8607cd281801097aab4e6 https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/889277c0c7ba62a9a30442488866afdb8d22abd7

[d10sfan]

yquake2 - https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/3c0f11a0ea986fe579533db91a1ffe7ccb4132c9

[d10sfan]

Additional improvements for yquake2 - https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/516288298400872f5a2c695d68d3b3415c777f2c

gzdoom: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/0023b9e1942d2e19fd954a552f57429a0556f4f2 https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/24a4add8132035dd83a31330113a8b3044ee3a54 https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/bbc358f55caf51d2fb0a7e2542c998eb783d7f91 https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/7e78df388154e969d3e273e55c2c4aadd6999a05

raze: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/packages/commit/dbfd48534133da1a90df1e7eb31e29207bbfcdb7

[d10sfan]

Implemented the configurations and the icons should be accurate towards that. Thanks for the help those who commented here. If anyone has an issue with controller support, feel free to comment here.