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MUSH Softcode and Utilities
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Cannot create Disclaimer Object #15

Closed Outremer-zz closed 11 years ago

Outremer-zz commented 11 years ago

I'm an absolute neophyte in the process of setting up a new MUSH from scratch -- and really I couldn't have done it without you. Thank you for sharing your code with the world!

Alas, the Disclaimer System Installation is not running as smoothly as one might hope. I'm using the same wizard as for everything else (the core and most of the add-ons), I'm in the Master Room, I'm copying and pasting very carefully with no extra linebreaks, and yet it just... won't work. The object is not created.

This is what I see:

[05:03:20] Beginning Disclaimer System Installation. Please wait until the Installation Complete message appears... [05:03:20] [05:03:20] Creating Objects... [05:03:20] [05:03:20] install_create(DISCLAIM_CMD,Disclaimer System,1,0,8.0,Disclaimer system.) [05:03:20] I can't see that here. [05:03:20] I can't see that here. [05:03:20] I can't see that here. [05:03:20] I can't see that here. [05:03:20] I don't see what you want to lock! [05:03:20] Setting Object Attributes... [05:03:20] [05:03:20] Setting up database numbers... [05:03:20] [05:03:22] Huh? (Type "help" for help.) [05:03:26] [05:03:26] [05:03:26] Installation Complete!!

I ran into a similar issue with objects not being created when I tried to install the FS3 code. I decided to save that problem for another day, but perhaps the same solution would do for both? I'm at the outer limits of my knowledge of mush code; I'd very much appreciate any thoughts you might have on the subject. Thank you again.

reeskylr commented 11 years ago

Fara rocks with her code and sharing it with every one.

I will hand off a tip. Cutting and Pasting doesn't always work well. The objects don't seem to create like they are supposed too.

I use SimpleMU for gaming and it has a handy little tool:

Under FILE ---->Upload Text---->Select 'Upload raw text, no prefixes'

Select File to upload - In this case the Disclaimer

You can set it to upload slowly by adding a few seconds to it in case you hit a problem. I usually set it at a one second delay.

All of Fara's code will set you QUIET - which you can take off with @set me=!QUIET -- so you can see the text uploading. It is spammy though.

Once it is done, you will see the pretty Ansi of Installation complete, etc etc.

If you get an error, just Abort the upload.

Hope this helps!

lynnfaraday commented 11 years ago

@Outremer - Sorry for the delay - apparently my email notification isn't working. It looks like your Install Manager may be having issues, and the install_create function isn't working. A couple things to check:

First, check that your install manager functions are registered. You should see something like this. If not, try re-installing the install manager.

Type>  @fun install_create

Name      : INSTALL_CREATE() (Enabled @function)
Flags     : 
Location  : #5/FUN_INSTALL_CREATE
Arguments : 0 to 10 

Next, check is whether your install manager is set HALT.

Type> br #5  (or whatever the "Location" was in @fun above)

Install Manager(#5TWX)
Type: THING Flags: WIZARD SAFE

If you see HALT in the flags list -- that means you've probably suffered from Issue #13.

Type> @set #5=!HALT 

This will remove the halted flag, but it's just a temporary fix. You'll need to also do the workaround described in Issue #13 by adjusting player_queue_limit.

If you can't figure out the problem, email me and I can stop by and have a look.

Outremer-zz commented 11 years ago

Well, the good news is that with your help my disclaimer object is working perfectly. :) Thank you so much!

The not-so-good news is that I think I made rather a mess when reinstalling the Install Manager. I have made a mental note that, in the interests of my success as a first-time MUSH admin, I must never again try to do these sorts of things pre-caffeine.

If it's not too much trouble, could you please give me idiot-level instructions on what I should have done to reinstall Install Manager? Which things should have been retained and which replaced? Or everything cleared out and everything replaced?

lynnfaraday commented 11 years ago

@Outremer: Actually all you need to do is run the installer script again. Just make sure to use the "Upgrade/Patch" version of the installer rather than the "Fresh Install" version. Otherwise, there is no manual effort required -- the installers take care of everything.

Try running the patch/upgrade installer again, and see if that works. If not, you're probably in an unrecoverable state and will need some advanced assistance to get back out of it. Let me know if that's the case and I'm happy to stop by and walk you through it.

Outremer-zz commented 11 years ago

... It sorted of worked, and sort of didn't work. Unfortunately I can't tell which things to worry about and how much.

I have been out of my depth ever since embarking upon this insane project last week; but now I think I may actually be drowning. May I please take you up on your offer to drop in and inspect the damage I've done with my rampant ignorance?

(P.S. Not sure where to find an email address for you to send login information.)

lynnfaraday commented 11 years ago

@Outremer - Just email me with the address and I'll pop by. faraday -at= aresmush.com

lynnfaraday commented 11 years ago

Believe this was caused by issue #13 -- fixed it on Outremer's game and nobody else has reported it. Closing.