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@jamesmrollins @TomRust @lzim
MY RESPONSE FOR MM IS THE SAME AS CC
Hello @jamesmrollins @TomRust @staceypark @dlkibbe @branscombj @dlounsbu
NOTE: In PROD the MM module still says "Medication Management Model" at the top of the main section with the model diagram. Those blue bar headers should all just indicate the module name without "model" e.g., "Medication Management"
We do need this final and to DEV ASAP. Let's make sure we are ready for that by the end of the MTL Launch call today.
I believe the new switch could simply be this, no need to re-reference "team data" when that is already shown as an exogenous "Team Data" input below, and the slider is Red, which learners will know is from team data by convention. I believe this also means we will not need to include the word "use."
I am not convinced that calling this switch "Prioritize Patients" will be well-received by providers. We will further explain the operational definition (as above) in the "i" information text, what about just using "Prioritize" alone as the header, then showing where the data comes from as below:
"Prioritize" left = "New Patient Starting Rate" right = "Existing Patient Return Visit Interval"
In response to Jane's points:
@jamesmrollins and @TomRust why a green slider named "Engagement Duration?" Using our style conventions, this should be a red slider named "Median Engagement" corresponding to the team data table. Right?
Thanks all!
Lindsey
Below are requested changes for discussion:
@branscombj -- Good questions! Here is my best shot at answers:
So: @jamesmrollins -- can we make these two changes: 1) set the minimum for all Engagement Duration sliders to 1 week 2) add a BC button to Review Rate slider (Vensim variable: "Data on Review Rate"
Below are a summary of requested changes in MM:
“Control what data are used in the simulation - Select 0 for "RVI" to prioritize existing patients, where the team first sees all existing patients at the RVI estimated from the data, and only starts as many new patients as there are remaining open slots (based on RVI, supply, and missed appointment data). Select 1 for "New Patient Starts" to prioritize new patients, where the team first sees all new patients at the rate estimated from the data, and only sees existing patients at the RVI possible given the remaining open slots (based on start rate, supply, and missed appointment data).”
Provide following "i" text for the slider:
“Manually adjust the median number of weeks that patients receive medication management visits with the team. (wks)”
Modify the "Sensitivity of Referrals to Wait Time" slider to incorporate other variables in the "array":
Add "Engagement Duration" to the Expanded Ouputs Section and to the Save drop down menu.
Delete "SAXW - Slots Allocation (With X Waiver), - Abbreviation truncates the same as ^Slots Allcation (No X Waiver)" highlighted below and add the following, "SAWXW - Slots Allocation (With X Waiver)" and add abbreviation "SANXW - Slots Allocation (No X Waiver)"
@jamesmrollins I believe we previously punted this to the MM Sprint. Can you update the text in the Help Page Abbreviations to match the change made in the Save section for the abbreviations?
The below should now say "SANXW - Slots Allocation (No X Waiver)"
"SAXW – Slots Allocation (With X Waiver) ---- Abbreviation truncates same as ^ Slots Allocation (No X Waiver)"
Version 1.7.4 MM is in TEST: Please consult the design summary and review checklist below to and indicate your "Go, No-Go" response. I have truncated the checklist to only cover things that are applicable for this sprint. **
Design Summary: MM user-defined experiment variables were changed from variable arrays to individual gaming variables and can now time step. In the Experiments Section, the Team Data Table was edited to change "Median Engagement Duration" to "Engagement Duration (median)(wks)." The "Use Team Data" switch was replaced with a "Priortize" switch to enable the user to choose between using the "New Patient Start Rate" (default) or the "Existing Patient RVI" as the starting point. Under the Engagement Pattern Section, an "Engagement Duration" slider was added with a range of 1 to 208 wks, with the base case set as default. In the Main SIM UI, all instances of "Starting Rate" have been changed to "Start Rate." The "Median Engagement" red text has been replaced with an "Engagement Duration" slider icon. The "Use Team Data" switch was edited to say, "Prioritize." The SIM UI Section header was edited to remove the word "Model" from "Medication Management."
Simulation Run (James and Tom)
Outputs (if variables or charts are added) (James, Stacey and Savet)
Training and Documentation (Debbie, Jane, and Stacey)
Thanks @jamesmrollins
@staceypark will be reviewing the training and documentation component. I will review MM in Test.
Thanks!
@jamesmrollins the test simulation Team Data Table for MM is not using the right standard unit for Engagement Duration.
The master crosswalk is correct, just not the sim. The same goes for CC Team Data Table. Otherwise, I'm done reviewing the master crosswalk for mm. 👍
@saveth do you mean that it should be "wks" instead of "weeks?"
@jamesmrollins yep. :)
@jamesmrollins @lzim @TomRust @staceypark @dlkibbe I have not processed all of the back and forth above, but as I use MM in Test today, the old "use team data for start rate" switch which is now "prioritize" does not match the i information, which talks about zero and one settings:
@branscombj We do want to keep the 0 or 1 included in the "i" information, because when you see the experimental values you can interpret your selection, e.g., 1 = prioritize new patient starts, 0 = prioritize existing patient RVI and then use it in the save dialogue :
However, @TomRust: a more "hard coded" question is: Would you say that the MM Module function "prioritize" is closer to a "mode" the way that "Team Data" and "Balanced" are in AGG?
Meaning the default that you choose for your bc needs to be made very explicit as the logic of this prioritize switch impacts the overall behavior of the model (multiple variables)?
@branscombj -- Good point about the itext -- it is both correct, and confusing! :)
How about these tweaks to the itext: Control what data are used in the simulation - Select "Existing Patient Return Visit Interval" to prioritize existing patients, where the team first sees all existing patients at the RVI estimated from the data, and only starts as many new patients as there are remaining open slots (based on RVI, supply, and missed appointment data) -- shown as 0 in Experiment Values. Select "New Patient Starts" to prioritize new patients, where the team first sees all new patients at the rate estimated from the data, and only sees existing patients at the RVI possible given the remaining open slots (based on start rate, supply, and missed appointment data) -- shown as 1 in Experiment Values.
@lzim -- I'm confused why you get different behavior with the switch positions. Both options should yield a model in equilibrium (just with different, but steady, RVIs and New Patient Start Rates). I just ran MM in forio, and it's definitely not producing the behavior in Vensim. I'll get with @jamesmrollins today to figure this out. :(
@jamesmrollins -- also:
I've also got a 5 "sum" variables in the model that I thought we were adding to the drop down list, so users could see across the entire team, not just by patient cohort:
@TomRust That works for me. @dlkibbe @staceypark @lzim Does this sound clear to you?
How about these tweaks to the itext: Control what data are used in the simulation - Select "Existing Patient Return Visit Interval" to prioritize existing patients, where the team first sees all existing patients at the RVI estimated from the data, and only starts as many new patients as there are remaining open slots (based on RVI, supply, and missed appointment data) -- shown as 0 in Experiment Values. Select "New Patient Starts" to prioritize new patients, where the team first sees all new patients at the rate estimated from the data, and only sees existing patients at the RVI possible given the remaining open slots (based on start rate, supply, and missed appointment data) -- shown as 1 in Experiment Values.
@jamesmrollins -- Found one more! Drop down list is also missing for each cohort:
@jamesmrollins @lzim -- I think the switch is being activated at time zero in Forio, instead of at the beginning of the run (as it is in Vensim). Activating at time zero just changes the RVI to match the estimate from the data, without starting the model with the correct number of patients in each stock for that RVI. This is not a realistic scenario at all.
@jamesmrollins -- Can we get the switch to work like it does in Vensim, where the value is set before the sim starts running? (for MM and CC...if anyone cares about CC)
@jamesmrollins -- one picayune detail -- the units are wrong for "New Patient Wait Time" It should be in weeks not patients.
@TomRust - I just went through my documentation. Somehow those changes got dropped off when I prepared instructions for DEV. In other words, I screwed that up when we went from a single 1.7 to 1.8 Development thread to break outs by model. These will be corrected tonight. I will also conduct a complete audit of all threads and documents to ensure I have captured everything.
Let me summarize what we need below:
"Control what data are used in the simulation - Select "Existing Patient Return Visit Interval" to prioritize existing patients, where the team first sees all existing patients at the RVI estimated from the data, and only starts as many new patients as there are remaining open slots (based on RVI, supply, and missed appointment data) -- shown as 0 in Experiment Values. Select "New Patient Starts" to prioritize new patients, where the team first sees all new patients at the rate estimated from the data, and only sees existing patients at the RVI possible given the remaining open slots (based on start rate, supply, and missed appointment data) -- shown as 1 in Experiment Values"
Add arrow on the model diagram that points at Completion Rate? I assume it is VA Light Blue.
Double check units in the charts - (exg., New Patient Wait Time).
Results of Conversation with @TomRust regarding model equilibrium differences between modes in MM.
@jamesmrollins MM Prioritize Switch Changes
@staceypark @lzim @TomRust
Current Situation: The MM Priority Mode switch is currently not operating as per @TomRust design intent. The problem is that each mode has a different equilibrium, and to achieve equilibrium we have to run from a negative time value to zero. If we switch the mode from default to Balanced at time zero, we would have to back up, which is impossible. In order to back up, we have to reset the model. The model is presented at time zero and at equilibrium of the default priority mode setting.
Possible solution?: DEV and I are trying to determine if there is a workaround. One possible alternative is to manually run the model through equilibrium. This may enable the user to set the appropriate mode before equilibrium.
Implications:
Once I have a workaround, and your approval, I will make the changes you have stipulated above.
Here is a mock up of the switch you described above. Unless I hear otherwise, I will include in tonight's pull.
@jamesmrollins seems right to me!
@lzim @staceypark @TomRust Although we closed the CC thread, shouldn't the logic above also pertain to the CC model? @TomRust and I discussed how the equilibrium is also affected by the default in the CC model. Wouldn't the "i" information also be the same? I will assume this to be the case and make these changes unless directed otherwise. ~James
@jamesmrollins
Great catch!
Yes, it should. Re-opening the CC issue now.
Any update on aligning Forio and Vensim differences in when/how the priority mode switch “kicks in” from initialization to today (i.e., negative time to equilibrium)?
As soon as we have a fix, we will address (as necessary) for the learner in associated documentation (guides/.gifs, cheatsheets, help, etc). Especially if it means learners will have to make this decision for MM and CC modules in the home screen dialogues before model initializes. Although, fingers crossed there may be a better fix than that!
FYI @TomRust and @staceypark
Hi @jamesmrollins -
I like what you've currently got in DEV for the "initialize the model with what data" issue.
How about this for additional text explaining what we are asking them to choose?
@TomRust and @jamesmrollins
If this is the route that has to be pursued for the MM issue, then it needs to clarify in the pop-up that it is only for MM module.
Recommended edits:
Tom can you help with this:
Thanks!
@lzim @TomRust Please take a look at the concept below. I would like to pull this into DEV tonight. @lzim, I believe this window will only pop up for MM and CC models that require the pre-start Priority Mode selection. So it may not be necessary to indicate that it is MM or CC, since they have to choose that before this pop up is presented. I'm going to take a swing at the Team Data Table next.
@lzim @TomRust Here is the Team Data Table with Priority Mode Values.
@jamesmrollins @TomRust
Thanks, I keep forgetting it is both CC and MM.
Priority Mode Pop-up:
Team Data Two minor edits from me:
Check!
OK - Off to DEV
Apologies - I'm probably way too late with this suggestion:
Priority Selected | Base Case RVI |
---|---|
Existing patient RVI | |
New patient start rate |
Thanks @branscombj
I believe that your recommendation would not reflecting the complexity of the Priority mode selection without an additional column like this:
Priority Selected | Base Case RVI (wks) | Base Case Start Rate (pts/wk) |
---|---|---|
Existing patient RVI | -- | 3.17 pts/wk |
New patient start rate | 15 wks | -- |
Right? @TomRust and @jamesmrollins
It is confusing to try to understand what would happen in two the four values for RVI and/or New patient start rate in the Team Data Table rows above the Priority Mode buttons...
I believe that your recommendation would not reflecting the complexity of the Priority mode selection without an additional column like this:
Ah, I see. Need the opposing units.
Priority Selected | Base Case |
---|---|
Existing patient RVI | New patient start rate = 3.17 pts/wk |
New patient start rate | RVI = 15 wks |
@branscombj @lzim @TomRust So have all of you decided that you want that table added to the Priority Mode pop-up? If so, where will it go? Just below the buttons? Let me know.
Also, if you want to see the current scheme for CC and MM, it is up in Test. I recommend a review and then I can make adjustments tonight. If we keep the ball rolling, I may be able to get this all done by Thursday.
@jamesmrollins -- also:
- Where are the "xxx Actual RVI" variables in the Results Dashboard dropdown list?
- Where is the arrow on the model diagram that points at Completion Rate?
I've also got a 5 "sum" variables in the model that I thought we were adding to the drop down list, so users could see across the entire team, not just by patient cohort:
- Total Slots Allocation % (without X waiver)
- Total Slots Allocation % (with X waiver)
- Total Current Supply
- Total RVI
- Average Actual RVI
@lzim @TomRust @jamesmrollins it looks like these aren't alphabetized in the dropdown list. They're alphabetized, but after the patient cohorts items. Is this what we decided on as the easier to find route?
- We'll need some really clear "i" information. @lzim @TomRust @jamesmrollins @branscombj where is this "i" information going? as part of the Team Data "i" or will Priority Mode Base Case Values get it's one "i" button
@jamesmrollins the Priority Mode pop up successfully only comes up for CC and MM, but it does not come up on first instance - i.e. when there's no current session. It only comes up after when you're changing models.
@jamesmrollins @lzim @branscombj --
The only place for itext about this is now the Team Data Table. How about:
Base case values estimated from the team's data, to correspond with the data selection made before opening the model. Each value ensures that the team will be able to maintain the historical estimate selected by the user, given all other team data (i.e, estimates of appointment supply, engagement duration, and missed appointment %).
Can we get a clearer name for the pop-up than "Priority Mode"? The user is selecting which team data to experiment from, based on their perception of the validity of the historical parameter estimates. Can we go with "Data Selection" or "Parameter Validation"? "Priority Mode" makes it sound like wwe're asking them to tell us which estimate is more important than the other...but the choice we are asking them to make is really black and white -- either they use RVI or they use Start Rate to initialize the model. The choice isn't about which parameter is more important, but which is more accurate -- which parameter should be used, and which discarded.
Can we get a clearer name for the pop-up than "Priority Mode"? The user is selecting which team data to experiment from, based on their perception of the validity of the historical parameter estimates. Can we go with "Data Selection" or "Parameter Validation"? "Priority Mode" makes it sound like wwe're asking them to tell us which estimate is more important than the other...but the choice we are asking them to make is really black and white -- either they use RVI or they use Start Rate to initialize the model. The choice isn't about which parameter is more important, but which is more accurate -- which parameter should be used, and which discarded.
Or is it which one to hold constant?
@staceypark
Regarding the 5 Sum variables. Yes, it was decided to not mix them in with the patient cohorts.
I am not clear what issue you are trying to communicate regarding the Priority Mode dialogue. A user is either joining a current session, which is at t = > 0, or is starting a new one. If joining a current session, the Priority Mode dialogue will not present, because the priority has already been selected by another user. Let me know if I got this wrong.
@lzim I see the following decisions needing to be made:
@staceypark and I are just turning back to this MM Issue #309 now after a long day 😅 Post 1/n
Thanks @jamesmrollins @branscombj and @TomRust for keeping this going today in the interim.
1. Priority Mode or something else:
To us "modelers" or "systems SMEs", I think this statement from Tom is the clearest: "they use RVI or they use Start Rate to initialize the model." I think this statement from Jane is also very clear "choose which one to hold constant."
At the same time, most providers will not know what making the decision to initialize the model with one (or the other) means, or what making the decision to hold one (or the other) constant means; parameter validation is even worse 😝. The problem in this case is serious, because due to Forio's limitations, they will be faced with this right up front before they do anything else in MM or CC.
Providers are using simulation to learn how to make better team improvement decisions, not learn modeling. And, they aren't saying which is more important clinically with this choice. But the implications of this decision are for the entirety of their CC and MM session and will never be compared.
I believe that framing this as a "mode" decision made for learning purposes helps translate use of the mode for understanding the tradeoffs of clinical problems. It doesn't swing too far toward suggesting it has [unrealistic] clinical implications it doesn't have, nor focus on data/model details that may undermine relevance/ease of use. We can help MTL Live learners with the choic, but not MTL Demo learners.
Recommended edits: Title: Learning Mode Existing Patient Return-to-Clinic Visit Interval
New Patient Start Rate [NOTE: I removed the "for Priority Mode]
@jamesmrollins Stacey's 3 above, is happening for me too in TEST.
Posting for @jamesmrollins more to come
@branscombj Does @jamesmrollins response above resolve the arrow issue?
Regarding the 5 Sum variables. Yes, it was decided to not mix them in with the patient cohorts. @jamesmrollins ok great that makes sense
@jamesmrollins @TomRust @branscombj
@staceypark and I are grappling with which display is clearest. But, do believe Team Data details are needed in the pop-up as we expect that most clinicians will want to easily see the relevant data when making this selection. And, I do not believe they should be introduced to "Base Case" with this selection, rather it should just clarify at this stage of their learning what the initial "Team Data" estimates will be.
CC
Mode Selected | Team Data for Existing Patient RVI (wks) | Team Data for New Patient Start Rate (pts/wk) |
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If Existing Patient Return-to-clinic Visit Interval (RVI) mode, then | -- | 3.17 pts/wk |
If New Patient Start Rate mode, then | 15 wks | -- |
MM
Mode Selected | AUD | DEP | OUD | Other |
---|---|---|---|---|
If Existing Patient Return-to-clinic Visit Interval (RVI) mode, then Team Data for New Patient Start Rate (pts/wk) = | 22.48 | 124.18 | 9.13 | 549.66 |
If New Patient Start Rate mode, then Team Data for RVI (wks) = | 2.13 | 6.38 | 1.32 | 21.67 |
@jamesmrollins I think the tables should go under the text description of each mode
@jamesmrollins I'm still working on this "i" information.
Since it is dynamic now that we've made it a "bc" pop-up with the data tables above, then we have a little more time on this edit. But, here is my recommended edit.
These base case values estimated from the team's data corresponds with the learning mode selected when opening the simulation.
@lzim @TomRust @staceypark @saveth @branscombj @dlkibbe @dlounsbu
Here are the MM submissions.
Here is how it will look in the SIM UI
And a close up of the switch with alternative wording (same as recommended in CC):
And a close up of the Sensitivity of Referrals to Wait Time sliders:
Please everyone verify so I can send to Dev.
Thanks, James