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Clean HDMI out for a5000 #70

Open H4ppyDr4gon opened 8 years ago

H4ppyDr4gon commented 8 years ago

With whole videa over 30min it is now possible to stream with the a5000. But atm you cannot get a clean image without info on screen. Would be great to get rid of that if possible :)

MrCodeWeaver commented 7 years ago

I installed the demo app on my Sony a5000 and ran the camera view and that gave a clean HDMI out except for the header bar at the top that says camera. Modifying that would possible be a potential solution.

ma1co commented 7 years ago

@rdweaver Removing the top bar would not be a problem. However, the android screen is only 640x360, but I don't know if this applies to the live view image as well. How is the resolution and framerate of the image on the external screen?

MrCodeWeaver commented 7 years ago

I did not actually check what resolution and framerate it was outputting to the external screen. It would work as it was for my purposes. I will post an update if I do more testing and check that.

MrCodeWeaver commented 7 years ago

I modified the PMCADemo app and removed the title bar on the camera view. This gives clean HDMI output. There are still two potential issues.

  1. I don't think the resolution is 1080. (for myself, this is not a huge deal)
  2. When HDMI output is plugged in, the display on the camera screen goes black. It would be nice to be able to see the image on there as well.
H4ppyDr4gon commented 6 years ago

Would it be possible to just get the function from the 5100 to not show info on the screen?

Slavpool commented 6 years ago

I'm curious if anyone has made some progress on this. The a5100 has "Clear HDMI" setting built in, the a5000 has not. If anyone has managed to get a clean camera view through external HDMI on a a5000 please share, it would certainly make many a5000 users happy!

judgemento commented 6 years ago

I downloaded the PMCADemo App, but the camera title bar was still there, @rdweaver how do I get that to go away? Thanks man!

MrCodeWeaver commented 6 years ago

@judgemento sorry, I don't have my a5000 anymore, and I wasn't able to find the code I had changed. Here are the steps I took from my memory.

  1. Download the source code
  2. Edit code to remove title bar
  3. Build your own APK
  4. Install APK on a5000
ma1co commented 6 years ago

In this file, try replacing

<activity android:name=".CameraActivity" android:label="@string/title_activity_camera">

with

<activity android:name=".CameraActivity" android:label="@string/title_activity_camera" android:theme="@android:style/Theme.Black.NoTitleBar">
judgemento commented 6 years ago 
<activity android:name=".CameraActivity" android:label="@string/title_activity_camera" android:theme="@android:style/Theme.Black.NoTitleBar">

Ok I edited, the text with this, but I tried to install with the PMCA-GUI but I can't select it since its not an apk. How do I format it to APK

Slavpool commented 6 years ago

Hi, I just managed to make it work. I am no programmer and this is the first time I've done something like this so I will try to explain the steps. I've Win 10 so this steps will work for you if you have Win 10. It took me some hours to complete because I had to install everything and I learned by solving 1 problem at a time... 1- Download Android Studio 2- Download Git for windows (during install make sure that you choose option to set Path) 3- In Android Studio, get the PCMADemo though "Check out project from Version Control" -> "Git" 4- Enter "https://github.com/ma1co/PMCADemo.git" to and then Choose a place where to save a local copy on your PC 5- Open Android Studio then choose "Open an existing Android Studio Project" 6- Change the Project structure to match SDK and other settings as described in "https://github.com/ma1co/PMCADemo/blob/master/build.gradle", meaning Android Plugin Version should be 2.3.3 and in SDK Manager you need to install SDK Platform 2.3.3 (Gingerbread). 7- Any existing errors? Use google and you will find the solution. Once your changes are made you want to Build APK 8- Remove the existing PCMADemo App from your camera before uploading the new one.

My new APK is called PMCADemo-debug-0.7-6-g12f34e4-dirty.apk, as I mentioned I don't fully understand what I've been doing but atleast I solved the issue with having the title, thanks to to @ma1co comment above.

The resolution is sadly the same as you have on the LCD screen, even if you run with HDMI cable. However if running the Option "Display" the resolution of the connected HDMI device is shown, in my case my monitor 1920x1080.

I don't know if it would be possible to edit the PCMADemo app further to switch to 1920x1080 when connected to HDMI, or simply forcing it to 1920x1080..

Hope this helps

EDIT: Maybe we can change something here? https://github.com/ma1co/PMCADemo/blob/master/app/src/main/java/com/github/ma1co/pmcademo/app/CameraActivity.java or here https://github.com/ma1co/PMCADemo/blob/master/app/src/main/java/com/github/ma1co/pmcademo/app/DisplayActivity.java

mcrichards commented 4 years ago

I'm looking to get a clean HDMI signal out of my a5000 and to a video capture card for use in an OBS stream. I have installed the app and I see it in my applications list, but I'm uncertain as to how OpenMemories-Tweak can be used for this purpose.

It seems like you all made some progress on this front. Are you able to provide any guidance?

Much appreciated!

mrboost commented 4 years ago

Gain any ground on this? ive been editing all kinds of lines trying to figure out how to have a clean display. (ive got the bar gone, but the quality is trash).

cris-cos commented 4 years ago

Gain any ground on this? ive been editing all kinds of lines trying to figure out how to have a clean display. (ive got the bar gone, but the quality is trash).

I myself have not managed to get rid of the bar yet, but for the quality i noticed something when using the camera on hdmi-out without any changes:

kalenjohnson commented 4 years ago

I haven't looked deeply into either solution, the PCMADemo app or the standard HDMI out. I just picked up a used A5000 today.

I'm not sure if the PCMADemo will be able to switch to a higher resolution, it is pretty low resolution so I decided that wasn't going to work for me as a webcam.

HDMI out works pretty well into a capture card, but as we all know it's not a clean HDMI output. After idling for a second though, the only issue is the aperture, iso, and some other data on the bottom of the image.

I haven't tried it in a meeting yet, but it seems to work, is using OBS. Use the capture card/camera HDMI as a source, then oversize it a bit to essentially crop the bottom portion. Then I use OBS-VirtualCam to create another webcam that can be used in Skype and Zoom, probably recording software as well.

https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-virtualcam.539/

TetraSkies commented 4 years ago

@ma1co I was wondering if it was possible to change to movie mode in the camera mode within the PMCA Demo app, I notice a significant increase in display quality in movie mode but when I switch into camera mode it reverts the quality.

lucasl0st commented 4 years ago

I forked the demo app and removed everything except the camera: https://github.com/lucaspape/PMCA-CleanHDMI (with title bar removed). The resolution is not great, I am trying to find a way to activate movie mode

NilsConnlaAbbott commented 4 years ago

Does anyone know how to even connect the camera to your computer? i saw a video on how to use it as a web cam for streaming, and it makes sense but the guy was vague on how to connect it to a software like OBS. Heres the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPIk-NG-l1E . I asked him and he said to hook it to the monitor, so i did and got it to display Via HDMI but i have no idea how he got it into a software for recording or streaming. Anyone know how?

sanmai commented 4 years ago

You'll need an HDMI capture card. Like this one, or cheaper variants. Basically these work like another webcam in the system.

NilsConnlaAbbott commented 4 years ago

Alright, thanks for the reply i appreciate it

alissonpaganini commented 4 years ago

Any progress?

alissonpaganini commented 4 years ago

I forked the demo app and removed everything except the camera: https://github.com/lucaspape/PMCA-CleanHDMI (with title bar removed). The resolution is not great, I am trying to find a way to activate movie mode

Very good, can you give more updates on how to apply this to the camera? the quality is in full hd at least? Thank you

kalenjohnson commented 4 years ago

No the resolution is probably under 540p... you can see it yourself using the app as is to see the quality.

alissonpaganini commented 4 years ago

No the resolution is probably under 540p... you can see it yourself using the app as is to see the quality.

this is bad man :/

NilsConnlaAbbott commented 4 years ago

Any progress?

Basically, get a capture card, there’s a cheap one for $60 that’s just as good at the cam link, plug the camera into it then into the computer. You can disable the icons in the camera settings, except for the iso and F.4 stuff. I’m OBS or whatever you’re using, just crop it out. I think cropping it is a better option, normal camera quality.

kalenjohnson commented 4 years ago

No the resolution is probably under 540p... you can see it yourself using the app as is to see the quality.

this is bad man :/

lol, this is a hack though. USB 2 camera quality is never going to be HD

Any progress?

Basically, get a capture card, there’s a cheap one for $60 that’s just as good at the cam link, plug the camera into it then into the computer. You can disable the icons in the camera settings, except for the iso and F.4 stuff. I’m OBS or whatever you’re using, just crop it out. I think cropping it is a better option, normal camera quality.

I agree with this, I basically explained the process 2 months ago in this thread

alissonpaganini commented 4 years ago

No the resolution is probably under 540p... you can see it yourself using the app as is to see the quality.

this is bad man :/

lol, this is a hack though. USB 2 camera quality is never going to be HD

Any progress?

Basically, get a capture card, there’s a cheap one for $60 that’s just as good at the cam link, plug the camera into it then into the computer. You can disable the icons in the camera settings, except for the iso and F.4 stuff. I’m OBS or whatever you’re using, just crop it out. I think cropping it is a better option, normal camera quality.

I agree with this, I basically explained the process 2 months ago in this thread

This is the best option. :)

jkh13 commented 4 years ago

I have a nex-6 and outputting over HDMI shows a 1080p resolution but with the OSD permanently on the screen. I wonder if there is a setting that can be tweaked to disable the OSD when using the camera normally via HDMI.

moro97400 commented 4 years ago

No the resolution is probably under 540p... you can see it yourself using the app as is to see the quality.

this is bad man :/

lol, this is a hack though. USB 2 camera quality is never going to be HD

Any progress?

Basically, get a capture card, there’s a cheap one for $60 that’s just as good at the cam link, plug the camera into it then into the computer. You can disable the icons in the camera settings, except for the iso and F.4 stuff. I’m OBS or whatever you’re using, just crop it out. I think cropping it is a better option, normal camera quality.

I agree with this, I basically explained the process 2 months ago in this thread

This is the best option. :)

Hello, I use an ATEM mini switcher and one of my camera is a Sony A5000 if I crop it to hide the icons it crops all of my others camera :/. If someone give me a custom firmware I can pay :) HMU

lucasl0st commented 4 years ago

No the resolution is probably under 540p... you can see it yourself using the app as is to see the quality.

this is bad man :/

lol, this is a hack though. USB 2 camera quality is never going to be HD

Any progress?

Basically, get a capture card, there’s a cheap one for $60 that’s just as good at the cam link, plug the camera into it then into the computer. You can disable the icons in the camera settings, except for the iso and F.4 stuff. I’m OBS or whatever you’re using, just crop it out. I think cropping it is a better option, normal camera quality.

I agree with this, I basically explained the process 2 months ago in this thread

This is the best option. :)

Hello, I use an ATEM mini switcher and one of my camera is a Sony A5000 if I crop it to hide the icons it crops all of my others camera :/. If someone give me a custom firmware I can pay :) HMU

I don't think there is any possibility to develop custom firmware on these Sony cameras. The only thing possible is to use the android subsystem and I don't know/couldn't find a way to get full resolution video while you are in this subsystem.

mischa85 commented 4 years ago

For anyone still looking for a solution:

Clean HDMI setting seems to be at 0x01070a47:

/ # bk.elf r 0x01070a47
id:01070a47 size:1 data:
01,
/ # bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00
id:01070a47 size:1 data:00, 
/ # bk.elf r 0x01070a47
id:01070a47 size:1 data:
00,

Reboot cam, info should be gone from it's HDMI out. (tested on Sony A5000)

moro97400 commented 4 years ago

For anyone still looking for a solution:

Clean HDMI setting seems to be at 0x01070a47:

/ # bk.elf r 0x01070a47
id:01070a47 size:1 data:
01,
/ # bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00
id:01070a47 size:1 data:00, 
/ # bk.elf r 0x01070a47
id:01070a47 size:1 data:
00,

Reboot cam, info should be gone from it's HDMI out. (tested on Sony A5000)

Hi ! thanks for the solution, I downloaded Sony-PMCA-RE-master / OpenMemories-Tweak-master / PMCA-CleanHDMI-master but I can't find any part of your code can you help me ? I can pay for your service (I'm on MacOS, If someone can help me it will be appreciated, I'am just a camera guy not a dev ;)

mischa85 commented 4 years ago
moro97400 commented 4 years ago

On Mac: Install this: https://github.com/ma1co/Sony-PMCA-RE/releases/download/v0.17/pmca-gui-v0.17-osx.dmg On Mac: Install App: OpenMemories: Tweak -> Install selected app On cam: Developer -> Enable Wifi + Enable Telnet This part is OK But : On Mac: telnet x.x.x.x (cam Wifi IP) On Mac: Enter commands I don't have any telnet menu on pmca-gui v0.17 Is it on the terminal ?

mischa85 commented 4 years ago

Is it on the terminal ?

Yep!

moro97400 commented 4 years ago

Is it on the terminal ?

Yep!

Doesn't work for me :

telnet xxx.1xx.1.1xx Trying 1xx.1xx.1.1xx... Connected to 1xx.xxx.1.xxx. Escape character is '^]'.

BusyBox v1.13.4 (2012-07-17 15:11:04 JST) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/ # bk.elf r 0x01070a47 id:01070a47 size:1 data: 01, / # id:01070a47 size:1 data: sh: id:01070a47: not found / # 01, sh: 01,: not found / # / # bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00 sh: /: Permission denied / # id:01070a47 size:1 data:00, sh: id:01070a47: not found / # / # bk.elf r 0x01070a47 sh: /: Permission denied / # id:01070a47 size:1 data: sh: id:01070a47: not found / # 00,

mischa85 commented 4 years ago

Doesn't work for me :

telnet xxx.1xx.1.1xx Trying 1xx.1xx.1.1xx... Connected to 1xx.xxx.1.xxx. Escape character is '^]'.

BusyBox v1.13.4 (2012-07-17 15:11:04 JST) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/ # bk.elf r 0x01070a47 id:01070a47 size:1 data: 01, / # id:01070a47 size:1 data: sh: id:01070a47: not found / # 01, sh: 01,: not found / # / # bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00 sh: /: Permission denied / # id:01070a47 size:1 data:00, sh: id:01070a47: not found / # / # bk.elf r 0x01070a47 sh: /: Permission denied / # id:01070a47 size:1 data: sh: id:01070a47: not found / # 00,

Almost! The actual commands are:

bk.elf r 0x01070a47
bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00
bk.elf r 0x01070a47
moro97400 commented 4 years ago

Doesn't work for me : telnet xxx.1xx.1.1xx Trying 1xx.1xx.1.1xx... Connected to 1xx.xxx.1.xxx. Escape character is '^]'. BusyBox v1.13.4 (2012-07-17 15:11:04 JST) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. / # bk.elf r 0x01070a47 id:01070a47 size:1 data: 01, / # id:01070a47 size:1 data: sh: id:01070a47: not found / # 01, sh: 01,: not found / # / # bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00 sh: /: Permission denied / # id:01070a47 size:1 data:00, sh: id:01070a47: not found / # / # bk.elf r 0x01070a47 sh: /: Permission denied / # id:01070a47 size:1 data: sh: id:01070a47: not found / # 00,

Almost! The actual commands are:

bk.elf r 0x01070a47
bk.elf w 0x01070a47 00
bk.elf r 0x01070a47

It's working !!! thanks a lot (tested on a5000 too)

bluesnoz commented 4 years ago

Thanks so much for this thread, I now have clean HDMI on my a5000 ! Yay

Slavpool commented 4 years ago

Thanks so much for this thread, I now have clean HDMI on my a5000 ! Yay

Hi, at what resolution? Is it 1080p?

bluesnoz commented 4 years ago

Yep, output is 1080p

mischa85 commented 4 years ago

It's 1080p50. Although I did not yet found a way to get true 50 fps out of the Sony A5000, even with shutter times as low as 1/100.

DrGahu commented 4 years ago

It's 1080p50. Although I did not yet found a way to get true 50 fps out of the Sony A5000, even with shutter times as low as 1/100.

Wait so you got a clean HDMI output 1080p50 with the Sony A5000? Is that it?

mischa85 commented 4 years ago

Wait so you got a clean HDMI output 1080p50 with the Sony A5000? Is that it?

Yep. Although every frame is displayed twice.

DrGahu commented 4 years ago

Wait so you got a clean HDMI output 1080p50 with the Sony A5000? Is that it?

Yep. Although every frame is displayed twice.

Ok so in reality you have 1080p25 Is their a Pal vs NTSC mode which could bump this to 1080p30?

I'm lurking a secondhand a5000 for streaming / video call and casual photo shooting. Could be the perfect budget cam for streaming if I can get a clean HDMI with reasonable resolution / framerate (720p+ at 30FPS+ would be great).

mischa85 commented 4 years ago

Ok so in reality you have 1080p25 Is their a Pal vs NTSC mode which could bump this to 1080p30?

Yes there is.

I'm lurking a secondhand a5000 for streaming / video call and casual photo shooting. Could be the perfect budget cam for streaming if I can get a clean HDMI with reasonable resolution / framerate (720p+ at 30FPS+ would be great).

The firmware menu lets you select between 1080p and 1080i. HDMI resolution gets set at 0x010700b1 (00 00 00 00 = AUTO | 05 00 00 00 = 1080p | 03 00 00 00 = 1080i). Might have options for 720p as well?

devfriber commented 4 years ago

Thanks so much for this thread, I now have clean HDMI on my a5000 ! Yay

Hello. I have only black screen. Can you help me?

quangvdo commented 4 years ago

Thanks so much for this thread, I now have clean HDMI on my a5000 ! Yay

Hello. I have only black screen. Can you help me?

Hit the shutter button.

Thank you @mischa85 this is wonderful!

Ascendancer commented 4 years ago 
* On Mac: Install this: https://github.com/ma1co/Sony-PMCA-RE/releases/download/v0.17/pmca-gui-v0.17-osx.dmg

* On Mac: Install App: OpenMemories: Tweak -> Install selected app

* On cam: Developer -> Enable Wifi + Enable Telnet

* On Mac: telnet x.x.x.x (cam Wifi IP)

* On Mac: Enter commands

You made my day! Thank you so much for saving my butt here <3

Treinkapitein commented 4 years ago

I forked the demo app and removed everything except the camera: https://github.com/lucaspape/PMCA-CleanHDMI (with title bar removed). The resolution is not great, I am trying to find a way to activate movie mode

Hi, Would you mind sharing the compiled version? I've cloned and compiled the repo, but as soon as I launch the app, my camera freezes. Thanks in advance!