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package reledmac for latex
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Permanent wrong placement of footnotes (left over notes) #598

Open sieversMartin opened 7 years ago

sieversMartin commented 7 years ago

DISCLAIMER: I have to admit, that I have not managed to set-up a MWE yet. However, I think the issue is worth asking, what might be the next step towards a solution.

I have a document using the most recent version of reledmac for six series of familiar footnotes. No matter how often I compile this document I regularly get messages like this:

reledmac reminder: 
 The number of the footnotes in this section has changed since the last run.
 You will need to run LaTeX two more times before the footnote placement
 and line numbering in this section are correct.
Section 16 (10-mappe-12.16

Package reledmac Warning: Line-list file 10-mappe-12.16 was obsolete. 
We have not read it. Please run LaTeX again. on input line 1.

As I said, trying to recompile does not solve the problem. Footnotes are placed far away from their origin page.

maieul commented 7 years ago

Disclaimer: without MWE, I can't work.

sieversMartin commented 7 years ago

Okay, I will try to produce one. If you have any idea what to do/avoid regarding left over notes please let me know.

maieul commented 7 years ago

no, honestly, I have no idea. It could depend of many factor. Are you in parallel typesetting ?

maieul commented 7 years ago

I use reledmac every day for my thesis, and I have not this problem. It can happen with specific case, but as I have no idea of all you work, I can't tell…

sieversMartin commented 7 years ago

My apologies again for not being able to set-up a MWE. As you may imagine, the project's document class is rather complex and a lot of things play a role when it comes to footnote placement.

However, I managed to hunt down the problem within my concrete example file. It is caused by expansion switches of xstring, e.g. \normalexpandarg etc. I did not pay enough attention to grouping, which caused following string operations done by reledmac to fail or at least work not as expected. The same issue by the way caused an infinite loop some days ago when migrating from eledmac to reledmac for that specific project.

Of course this is not a bug in reledmac. However, maybe you could add a short note in the documentation or even use explicit xstring switches yourself in order to avoid side effects.

Thank you for your great work and keep TeXing.

maieul commented 7 years ago

If I understand right, you have changed the expansion mechanism of xstring, which have perturbated reledmac?

In this case, I think the better should be that I ensure to have the correct expansion setting in any case. However, as that is a bug which happens very rarely, and as the correct could have boarder effect, and as my time is very limited, I will wait before any investigation in this side.

sieversMartin commented 7 years ago

If I understand right, you have changed the expansion mechanism of xstring, which have perturbated reledmac?

Yes, I have to use normalexpandarg at some macros and did not group that switch. Thus, this mode used by a lot of xstring operations stayed active and was accidentally used by reledmac as well causing severe problems.

The default mode is fullexpandarg. There is a "save and restore" mechanism as well.

maieul commented 7 years ago

Ok. I think I could use the save and restore mechanisme inside reledmac, it would be with the less side board effect.