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expiration date on student profiles? #91

Open meagansiu opened 9 years ago

meagansiu commented 9 years ago

general thought I just had: would we want to have some sort of expiration based on how long the student has signed up to participate in the program, so that they can't keep accessing our materials if they decide to leave?

or would we be okay with just manually changing permissions for each person? not sure if an expiration date type thing is even possible :)

maltyeva commented 9 years ago

Good idea -- So the easiest thing would be to have students either be 'active' or 'inactive' on the site, which I could probably do today or tomorrow.

Another option would be to add an expiration date and then every time a student logs in, which whether the expiration date is after today's date and if it is, lock them out. Would this implementation be for the student or for the teachers though? Would we want to send them warnings when their profile is about to expire? What should the actions to instructors look like when a student is de-activated or their account expires?

Thoughts? :)

ChasonMindImp commented 9 years ago

I think this may be as much (or more) of an admissions/enrollment management question than a technical one. Trying to think about it from a student experience and administrative perspective, activity and inactivity will vary depending on enrollment status and other factors. Each one may be worth addressing, in part because some of those status will be making us money and drumming up good student engagement, and others won't. From my seat, this is what this could all look like, and various things we should consider when it comes to levels of access. This is definitely not exhaustive, but these are some things that come to mind.

Active/No Program

Active/No Enrollment

Active/Enrolled

Inactive

Program Complete

We want to toe the line of making sure access is appropriate with what students are doing without unnecessarily closing the door to students who think they may want to return. Coupling this with enrollment management (as an extension of admissions policy) will also keep us in consideration with students who are active/unenrolled or inactive.

To turn it back to a technical discussion, I think we need to, if possible, finalize internal terms and policies for these designations and then have each as an option on the site. Admissions staff will then have the task of toggling students as they fall in and out of certain statuses.

maltyeva commented 9 years ago

Good comments!

Okay, so for now, I definitely want an active or an inactive 'toggle', because when doing things like choosing which students are in your classes, you want to only be able to select students who are active on the site (and maybe those who are in the course permissions list?), but I do agree that well need to have stronger definitions of what it means to be a student on the website. What would be the best way to go forth with establishing that procedure?

One potential downside of having students choose their program right away is if we transition from having the wenjuan page to having students do their inquiry on the site instead, because they may not be familiar with the programs (we could have a choice for preferred in the beginning at first?), because in the current implementation, they are given access to the program with the toggle.

I do like the idea of calling deactivated students Alumni. At this point, will we have students who are completely finished with the program after this class session?

jzthompson commented 9 years ago

We have plenty of students who will not be immediately continuing with courses in the next academic term, but I don't think we have anyone who is unequivocally and permanently done with all MindImp programs. In other words, we have a number of students who at least for a while will fit into the "Inactive" category. I like the idea of trying to tempt these students back into the program. I wonder if periodic email updates (Added five new books, ten new articles this month, starting three new courses next month, etc.) would also be a good way to keep them involved with the website.

meagansiu commented 9 years ago

I think that the periodic email update sounds cool! I get some emails from Coursera about their new offerings that look pretty nice; perhaps we could ask one of the graphic designers to create something we could use, so that it looks more MindImp-branded instead of just a plain text email.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:28 PM, jzthompson notifications@github.com wrote:

We have plenty of students who will not be immediately continuing with courses in the next academic term, but I don't think we have anyone who is unequivocally and permanently done with all MindImp programs. In other words, we have a number of students who at least for a while will fit into the "Inactive" category. I like the idea of trying to tempt these students back into the program. I wonder if periodic email updates (Added five new books, ten new articles this month, starting three new courses next month, etc.) would also be a good way to keep them involved with the website.

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