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Vanish not breaking with damage. #869

Closed Ganztxd closed 12 years ago

Ganztxd commented 12 years ago

Vanish allows the Rogue to disappear from sight, entering an improved stealth mode for 10 sec. Also breaks movement impairing effects. All aggroed mobs on rogue will exit combat phase and return to their original locations or turn to other players if the rogue is in a party. http://www.wowwiki.com/Vanish quote of wowwiki Vanish does not remove DoT's on you Problem is that player keeps with vanish buff for 10seconds and doesnt loose steatlh with dots/bleeds and others dmg overtime. Regards

rsa commented 12 years ago

as say Vladimir (discussion on ru-mangos), on 10 sec rogue has improved invisibility, not breaked by any external method (as in spell flags/proc flags). only after 10s stealth may be breaked by bleed effect, if his not fade.

Tiquihit commented 12 years ago

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1856/vanish#comments ---> http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4950/vanish.png

rsa commented 12 years ago

Maybe I forgot how to read? "will still take damage from aoe, existing dots or just simply get frozen in place by a Nova. It won't break stealth but it'll still root them in place" _it_won't_breakstealth

Tiquihit commented 12 years ago

Im starting to think about it


MelzIV says: (Patch 3.3.5) "Blabla...."

and Dradee responds to MelzIV: (Patch 3.3.5) "This change will happen in the ------------>PRE-PATCH of CATACLYSM<-------------------"

and Aaygo responds to Dradee (Patch 4.2.2) "--------------->Exactly as it saids (DRADEE)<------------.... will still take damage from aoe, existing dots or just simply get frozen in place by a Nova. It won't break stealth but it'll still root them in place..."


rsa, I do not post for posting without any evidence and, if you think about it, it's illogical to be 10s in stealth without posibility of break it. That would be too unbalanced!!!!!!!!!!

rsa commented 12 years ago

in Cata this buff only reduced from 10s to 3s. i see this in DBC files... no other changes in spell record.

Tiquihit commented 12 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLOcI4h_kg&feature=related

(14:47)--> the other rogue uses vanish (14:48)--> kalimist (the player) uses fan of knives and breaks vanish of the other rogue

(15:00)--> kalimst (the player) uses rupture to the other rogue and (the other rogue)-> he use vanish (sorry) (15:01---> vanish (of the other rogue) broken

rsa commented 12 years ago

in 14:47 rogue not use vanish - destealthed in 14:48 rogue in stealth more then 10s. suppose plain stealth. in 15:00 kalimst not in vanish, but in polymorph.

Tiquihit commented 12 years ago

Well, if not convince you with this, I leave

1- http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/462/111qw.png (14:46) Rogue stuned 2- http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4816/222ap.png (14:47) Rogue uses vanish, he couldn't enter stealth without combat in 1s and he isn't night elf which uses the racial (racial which in mangosr2 don't leaves instant combat) 3- http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8079/333zn.png (14:48) Kalimist breaks stealth with fan of knives

1- http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7003/84181719.png (14:50) 5 combo points 2- http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6428/19241818.png (14:50:99999999999999) 0 combo points, rogue uses vanish & kalimist rupture (not seen) 3- http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2051/83855300.png (15:00) Vanish in stealth 4- http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8136/72360846.png (15:01) Vanish broken 5- http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4285/12164146.png (15:04) The moment Kalimist target the rogue with rupture

rsa commented 12 years ago

For a start would like to thank for the done work. Unfortunately, it didn't convince me (video can serve as argument when the confirmed doesn't contradict data in DBC). Probably, it will convince someone else of R2 so let issue remains.

raynar commented 12 years ago

You have seen that sometimes the DBCs are wrong. This case is an example of dbcs' error.

I meet Tiquihit and he is a really good player. He comes from oficial server and he helps me a lot with reports of bug spells.

You're too hard to convince. I understand your position. But sometimes I think you must "listen" peoble who have good evidence of oficial server.

rsa commented 12 years ago

may be, i'm long time not have real wow experience. but this problem is budded, and one time i'm make possibility to remove ext invis by damage. appears many messages (may found in old issues), that this wrong (with args and video). same - as many other problems, like deterrence, ICC spells, grounding totem. now i do nothing, if not have convience.