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Sorani module is not listed by And Bible for Document download #154

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
David:
Currently the Sorani module is not listed by And Bible for Document download!!!
I suspect this is because there is also version 2.0.1 available with 
Versification=NRSV, and this is incompatible with And Bible.
I've copied Martin in this reply so that he can explain why I can't see the 
other version from CrossWire Main.

Martin:
I just checked and And Bible is printing an Invalid language code error for ckb 
- and also for sml, and pon.
I need to investigate as I think it may be a result of optimizing language code 
loading.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by mjden...@gmail.com on 24 Jan 2013 at 10:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
See also the information provided by DM Smith about JSword.
Forwarded by email - but need not be pasted in this issue.

Original comment by DFH...@gmail.com on 25 Jan 2013 at 10:33

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi.  My name is Tim.  I live and work in Iraqi Kurdistan.  I just found the 
iphone version of JSword, and then came across And Bible.  i was able to 
download the ckb for Sorani on an Android phone, but the font definitely has 
some issues.  Whereas on the iPod touch i'm using, it's perfect.  I am not a 
programmer at all, but this is very important to me, and i'm willing to be 
helpful however i can on this. 

Tim

Original comment by timmeld...@gmail.com on 27 Jan 2013 at 9:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi Tim,

Android does have many shortcomings in it's internal fonts.  However, recent 
versions of Android are musch improved.  which version of Android do you have?

We also have the ability to link a module to a font in And Bible and 
automatically install the font.  Is there a (free) font you would normally use 
for Sorani?

Martin

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 30 Jan 2013 at 1:06

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi Martin,

thank you so much for your time and thoughts on this.
My wife's Android phone is 2.3.6.

In terms of fonts that we use.  There are quite a few unicode fonts that 
available for free.  I will attach one that we generally like.  But we also 
just tend to use some of the fonts within Word or Excel, etc because it is 
unicode.  So they work great.

Have you ever spoken to Sandy (Iskander) Russell?  He leads the IBS branch in 
Erbil, the capital city of the Kurdish region of Iraq.  Just thought i would 
see if you're connected at all because he has worked for a while to hope to see 
the sorani bible available on phones.  

Thank you so much for what you're doing.  This is a really big deal, as some of 
the persecuted followers can not carry around an actual bible.

peace,

Tim

Original comment by timmeld...@gmail.com on 31 Jan 2013 at 12:48

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi Martin,

I got some emails yesterday from a couple people i know and work with regarding 
this same issue.  I'm wondering if the conversation is happening in two places 
at once.  

I received an email with a great unicode Kurdish font.  I will attach it here.  
it is better than either of the ones i previously attached, and i was told it 
is free to use.

I would hate to cause this conversation to be duplicated.  So i will try to 
find out from the other folks if it is the same.  And if so, then i will stop 
bugging you here and jump into that conversation.  Please let me know if you 
there is anything else i might help with on this.

Tim

Original comment by timmeld...@gmail.com on 5 Feb 2013 at 6:30

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi Tim,

And Bible fixes and enhancements can be discussed either here or in the And 
Bible discussion group, otherwise it is difficult for us to help.

I have fixed the download list problem (part of next release) and downloaded 
the Sorani bible to my phone running Android 4.2, which is the latest.  Can you 
tell me if the attached screen print still exhibits the problem.  A lot of font 
improvements came as part of Android 4 but there are still many outstanding 
problems.

Regards
Martin

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 5 Feb 2013 at 3:09

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Martin,

this looks awesome!  it has all of the diacritics right and is easy to read.

I have a couple more questions:  Is it still possible to link the sorani to the 
font that i attached above and see if that will work on older versions of 
Android?

When does the next release come out?  

thanks again for your help.

Tim

Original comment by timmeld...@gmail.com on 5 Feb 2013 at 6:22

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi Tim,

The Download Documents fix will be combined with the next release which will 
include Split Screen functionality and should be available in a few weeks.

I plan to check several versions of Android so we know roughly when Google made 
the Sorani fix.

This isn't just a problem for And Bible and so it may be that many Sorani 
mobile providers or users will have already applied a fix for Sorani.  This was 
the case with Hebrew with providers loading modified versions of Android 
supporting Hebrew before Hebrew was well supported by standard Android.  Also, 
Sorani users will naturally gravitate to Android phones that support Sorani now 
it is available.

Currently And Bible does not support distribution of fonts just for older 
versions of Android - it's all or nothing - so I would need to modify the code. 
 Also, I think that shaping or other layout features may be required for Sorani 
and merely replacing a font may not be sufficient.

After I have made some more progress with the next release I will come back to 
this and do some further tests, but my preference is always to use Google's 
fonts if they work.

I don't know if you are aware of these but there seem to be some Sorani tools 
available for Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=klye.plugin.s2&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kur.dictionary
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.robtheis.android.phrasebook.xs
.bc

Regards
Martin

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 7 Feb 2013 at 10:38

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Here is a screen print from an Android 4.0.3 device using default Android 
fonts.  There seem to be some unexpected vertical lines in the text.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 5 Mar 2013 at 9:17

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Here is a screen print from my G1 running Android (Cyanogen) 2.2.1.  The 
vertical lines are there but now additionally there are also some squares which 
represent missing characters.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 5 Mar 2013 at 9:30

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Now I will try loading the custom abdakre font.

Here is a screen print from my G1 running Android (Cyanogen) 2.2.1 but using 
the custom abdakre.ttf font.  It looks weird to me.  I think something is wrong.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 5 Mar 2013 at 9:42

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
This looks good in terms of the letter marks, but there are 2 issues:

1. it is going left to right!  :)  (it's backwards)
2. the letters are not "connecting" when they are together.  But this may be 
due to the fact that it's going L2R.

But the individual letters look great, which is typically the main problem.

Tim

Original comment by timmeld...@gmail.com on 6 Mar 2013 at 4:33

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Also, in the Android 4 stock font set pic, the vertical lines are always 
following the same character.  It's the "e", which is represented by the little 
circle.

Original comment by timmeld...@gmail.com on 6 Mar 2013 at 4:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
There are a lot of issues discussed above.  However, the original issue of 
Sorani module not showing up has been resolved.  It appears under Kurdish 
(central).

Feel free to open specific issues if any problems are outstanding.

Original comment by mjden...@gmail.com on 15 Mar 2014 at 9:53