Final Balancing

[CelestialKnight7]

this does not include perks which might need to be balanced after being added (doubt they will be added flawlessly)

things that need to be buffed: classes:

• stealth (another issue on this)
• tactical (too many counters to it and needs a little something, also we're removing it's passive)
• medic (kinda, mostly needs to be reworked) items:
• none

things that need to be nerfed: classes:

• warrior (needs it, the nerf was bound to happen eventually)
• builder (needs to be reworked regarding: torret hp/torret cd/torret stats(turn speed/aimbot/dmg/etc)) items:
• bomb (remove the 100 dmg)

[CelestialKnight7]

doesn't count, cuz not even exist

[CelestialKnight7]

• tactical: idk this isn't my department but here's some ideas: ~random mine MVP (jk, just handing out some PTSD) ~cluster bomb (mega missile explodes into 4 smaller bombs on impact (each doing 12.5 dmg at max rank) ~passive: all explosives have a larger radius? ~tripwire: (either passive or on button press (means tactical might have 2 abilities)) spawns 2 nodes that form a tripwire? (can be shot to be destroyed) (prob no cuz basically new item that's class specific) ~holding f allows you to enter aim mode and u get a red line indicating where ur aiming, this does not slow u or hurt u in any way. releasing f shoots the megamissile. (u need f to be off cd to do this)

• medic: idk revert to whatever the old one was pre-bread.

• warrior: check to see if its able to hit twice in one boost, if so: fix reduce damage of boost to 50 if it needs a buff after these 2 changes we can change damage numbers, don't increase cd so no more I frames

• builder: 3 torrets no aimbot no passive torrets only do Normal shooting and same damage per bullet as the tonk does (so scales with rank)

• bomb: remove the 100 dmg

[cs6413110]

For once reading issues is productive. Thanks evan.

For tactical:

• Maybe 2x faster powermissle?
• Maybe mega immune to reflect(i.e doesn't change team but still gets redirected) For warrior:
• Nerf boost time(can get accross map too fast)?
• Nerf damage to 75
• Nerf cooldown by 5 secs For builder:
• Nerf everything
• No hitbox For medic:
• Revert

[3foe]

so yall are ignoring life steal here are people's standings correct me if I am wrong

jonas is in support of Life steal

coltin is in support of life steal

bradley is neutral to life stea

I am in support of life steal in the fullest

a coltin is talking to GPA players who used to play and says they want to have regular updates and say Life Steal would get them playing again (this is only 1 or 2 GPA players the rest are addicted to Hooda Math Duck Life)

so we are looking at a lot of people wanting Life Steal I say we remove boost class and make it Life Steal because like Aaron said warrior needs a massive Nerf well this can be it, no more I frames, no more insane 3rd party capability, no more one shot capabilities, no more running capabilities, no more free tool kit capabilities, don't you want that and get in exchange a skill-based and self-balancing class

everything screams life steal SO ADDDDDDDDDDDDDD

evan DMG and Aaron say what you think about life steal and if you don't like it say y bc I really want life steal to be added, and I hate the fact that my class was extanged for a fricking boost that everyone thinks is OP

[3foe]

ye

but if u have skill its not trash, it is skill dependant which balances it, the maximum (without the F ability) is going to be 30%

[3foe]

with the F ability it will be 50% for a very short period, in which case u just run away, which balances it

[3foe]

no, u said op fix lol falts to good so it must be warrior bc i cant accept ut better than me

[3foe]

welp IDC look at the screen shot ![Uploading Screenshot 2024-04-30 1.40.26 PM.png…]()

[3foe]

[3foe]

• yes you should add it (it being life steal tank)

everyone here would start playing again

[3foe]

no not rlly

[3foe]

i said life steal tank rea dthe screen shot

[cs6413110]

no context no relevance no clue

no point :)

[3foe]

life steal, it is balanced by itself so no need to balance it. add it in. people literally support it, its not just me

[cs6413110]

so what happened to turret hitbox??

we have 2 confirmed upvotes (me and lk) and 2 semi confirmed downvotes with no real reason (cs641311 and celestial)

Promotes flatting, camping, team softlocking, etc.

[3foe]

no still op nerf

[cs6413110]

Ability to spontaneously double dmg/s up to 4x original dmg is op no matter what

[cs6413110]

Also u basically just get a 500 hp shield to sit on

[cs6413110]

real

[cs6413110]

Ye, it hits f and it has 3x the iframes of a normal tank, the damage of a tactical, and the speed of a stealth.

[3foe]

warrior nerf:

instead of getting an extra boost, you still get iframes and the DMG, but no speed buff, so u cant run away or third party easily, you have to use your own boost

[3foe]

medic buff, 20% life steal (ran this past Aaron first)

[CelestialKnight7]

so yall are ignoring life steal here are people's standings correct me if I am wrong

jonas is in support of Life steal

coltin is in support of life steal

bradley is neutral to life stea

I am in support of life steal in the fullest

a coltin is talking to GPA players who used to play and says they want to have regular updates and say Life Steal would get them playing again (this is only 1 or 2 GPA players the rest are addicted to Hooda Math Duck Life)

so we are looking at a lot of people wanting Life Steal I say we remove boost class and make it Life Steal because like Aaron said warrior needs a massive Nerf well this can be it, no more I frames, no more insane 3rd party capability, no more one shot capabilities, no more running capabilities, no more free tool kit capabilities, don't you want that and get in exchange a skill-based and self-balancing class

everything screams life steal SO ADDDDDDDDDDDDDD

evan DMG and Aaron say what you think about life steal and if you don't like it say y bc I really want life steal to be added, and I hate the fact that my class was extanged for a fricking boost that everyone thinks is OP

Your class?!?!? Oh boy. Your honor, the defendant is clearly lying as stated by these 4 different documents stating back to 2021 and prior stating that back in 8th grade when I first join the tonk crew and classes were being added, there were 2 bastions of strength among the newly emerging classes. Stealth and tactical. Their rivalry dates back to the dawn of modern pixel tanks. And one day, when there were plans to add 8 classes, a new one was born. Because I had a dream. A dream of a tank with a melee ability. But how could this be achieved? A tank can't melee it doesn't have legs to kick, much less arms to punch. But then I realized. Its a 200 ton box. It its the fist. Imagine a tank running into you at 90 mph. that outta hurt. And boost was already in the game at this time. So Warrior was created, with the ability to bash into enemies for a whopping 100 dmg per boost. And for the f ability we threw in a random damage buff cuz whatever. Since then warrior has been changed repeatedly to fit the balanced of the game set by the almighty-ly simple fire tank. And soon, it will achived.

also lifesteal bad and annoying. imagine doing damage and then healing off that damage, more importantly imagine fighting that. so annoying.

so in conclusion: shut flat + not rock and Stone of u + didn't ask + lag bye

[CelestialKnight7]

didn't mean to close forgor that this isn't some random issue flat made about lifesteal

[3foe]

sir, I came up with the warrior tank with Aaron as an idea for the third class, never your idea. the OG idea was to make a pit trap (knock off of moomoo.io) basically modern block but invisible and you had to boost out of it to get out. it was always my idea then aaron mentioned it to you, and you decided to make a melee ability, so in conclusion as the FIRST tanks player and the person who came up with the whole idea of tanks in the first place, and the person who came up with warrior, as the person who has been playing tanks since the very beginning of its existence, as the person who stood by aarons side since he was a 4th grader I think I have more senority than you and a lot more credibility. so back to the real issue instead of the "who was here first" argument. life steal is not going to be warrior Aaron and I already talked medic needs a passive. bradley is not opposed, jonas is for it, coltin is for it, I am for it, Aaron PROPOSED IT TO ME IN THE FIRST PLACE. so we are looking at 3-1 alex I want to hear ur opinion. so Evan you are in no position to use your underseved admin and collaborator position to say I have more power than the very first person here and the person who came up with tanks in the first place, you have no right to say no without a vote, even if alex were against life steal we still win the 3-2 plus aaron is on our side so even if you won 5-1 still wouldn't matter.

[cs6413110]

Fr to both of those

[3foe]

First of all, ur like the main antagonist of the tanks universe lol. In the past, you've constantly tried to get what you want in game despite other opinions, and when you are rightfully punished, you try to destroy the whole game. You're not very helpful.

(MY paragraph) bradley going to animea logic of good guy and bad guy again... the only reason why I would ignore an argument is if it is an invalid or biased opinion, let's talk about the admin abuse issue the reason for which I was punished, I tried to get everyone to agree to an anti admin abuse contract, evan and bradley wanting to keep admin for fun said no and I tried every option to get ot but one the last option was commonly known as phase 2 which would have worked but Aaron catching on to what it was got cold feet and agree to lift the punishment and work together on the admin abuse Co tract and to give my admin back after 2 weeks of "not bothering annyone" those 2 weeks are long gone but because LK and you and evan fighting he didn't want to make you any madder so I still don't have my admin, in reality are you not the main antagonist because you are the only person blocking me from getting what's mine, spamming bad ideas, and making everyone mad every week because you veto LK and my ideas to make evan happy?

Second, we removed passives, and we aren't adding a life steal perk. Life steal is usually op and is balanced by reducing the max hp, but we can't do that, so it would either be op or do like 2% healing and be useless.

(Me) 1 life steal yes would need balancing however the fact that for the most part it balances itself stands because a noob can't use it bc they need Shotgun skill also you could help maybe?

Third, no new features, and I'm against it, and Aaron is against everything I say, let alone a NEW feature that YOU created. Bad idea.

(Me) Bradley this is where you are flat out wrong, asked Aaron in person. While writing this anti bread spam issue and he said he still supports medic life steal PASSIVE, you were not against it in person so you are being biased to stay on Evans good side, if he is blackmailing u or something. Do what you did to me ignore it and move on. If you are doing it to stay his friend should you really have the power to vote, if you opinion is always biased

Finally, abilities that are meant to be focused around shotgunning effectively have proven to be bad abilities. When old warrior existed, it was really hard to balance: only +25% Dmg was bad, +50% Dmg was still bad, and annoying to play against, +25% defense was terrible, and +50% defense was super op. Ur idea is like the defense upgrades from old warrior, and if I have learned anything for that whole experience... NO MORE STUPID STAT BUFF INCREASES YOU FRICKING FLATTTTT.

(Me) is this a offensive buff? No, a defensive one ? No, how is this old warrior again? It's 'defensive' it's not its a combo of each that self nerfa with the amount of skill, it is not no skill where you hit f and take no dmg or press f and one shot, it is a weak passive that helps you stay close range and demotes flatting, this literally helps with everything, and you are opposed, wonder why (biased opinion as stated earlier) also insulting me using ad dominant is a logical fallacy proving that you arguement is invalid, so by nature by dictionary and by the fact that I disproved all of your points by the fact that you arguement was built on lies, you are wrong invalid and should shut up.

I rest my case

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[cs6413110]

Basically, Matthew bribed me with Cheez-its to try lifesteal with medic. When Evan and I get to balancing classes we will try it. Bradley is probably right that it won't be balanceable, but medic has been unbalanced between team and solo capabilities so maybe lifesteal will solve that. As for getting admin, you keep trying to fight admins and discredit people...

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First of all, ur like the main antagonist of the tanks universe lol. In the past, you've constantly tried to get what you want in game despite other opinions, and when you are rightfully punished, you try to destroy the whole game. You're not very helpful.

(MY paragraph) bradley going to animea logic of good guy and bad guy again... the only reason why I would ignore an argument is if it is an invalid or biased opinion, let's talk about the admin abuse issue the reason for which I was punished, I tried to get everyone to agree to an anti admin abuse contract, evan and bradley wanting to keep admin for fun said no and I tried every option to get ot but one the last option was commonly known as phase 2 which would have worked but Aaron catching on to what it was got cold feet and agree to lift the punishment and work together on the admin abuse Co tract and to give my admin back after 2 weeks of "not bothering annyone" those 2 weeks are long gone but because LK and you and evan fighting he didn't want to make you any madder so I still don't have my admin, in reality are you not the main antagonist because you are the only person blocking me from getting what's mine, spamming bad ideas, and making everyone mad every week because you veto LK and my ideas to make evan happy?

Second, we removed passives, and we aren't adding a life steal perk. Life steal is usually op and is balanced by reducing the max hp, but we can't do that, so it would either be op or do like 2% healing and be useless.

(Me) 1 life steal yes would need balancing however the fact that for the most part it balances itself stands because a noob can't use it bc they need Shotgun skill also you could help maybe?

Third, no new features, and I'm against it, and Aaron is against everything I say, let alone a NEW feature that YOU created. Bad idea.

(Me) Bradley this is where you are flat out wrong, asked Aaron in person. While writing this anti bread spam issue and he said he still supports medic life steal PASSIVE, you were not against it in person so you are being biased to stay on Evans good side, if he is blackmailing u or something. Do what you did to me ignore it and move on. If you are doing it to stay his friend should you really have the power to vote, if you opinion is always biased

Finally, abilities that are meant to be focused around shotgunning effectively have proven to be bad abilities. When old warrior existed, it was really hard to balance: only +25% Dmg was bad, +50% Dmg was still bad, and annoying to play against, +25% defense was terrible, and +50% defense was super op. Ur idea is like the defense upgrades from old warrior, and if I have learned anything for that whole experience... NO MORE STUPID STAT BUFF INCREASES YOU FRICKING FLATTTTT.

(Me) is this a offensive buff? No, a defensive one ? No, how is this old warrior again? It's 'defensive' it's not its a combo of each that self nerfa with the amount of skill, it is not no skill where you hit f and take no dmg or press f and one shot, it is a weak passive that helps you stay close range and demotes flatting, this literally helps with everything, and you are opposed, wonder why (biased opinion as stated earlier) also insulting me using ad dominant is a logical fallacy proving that you arguement is invalid, so by nature by dictionary and by the fact that I disproved all of your points by the fact that you arguement was built on lies, you are wrong invalid and should shut up.

I rest my case

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[3foe]

Not discrediting and I haven't been doing anything but support life steal (you proposed lifesteal to me so not me causing conflict) also I didn't bribe u with cheese it's for life stealnit was to add it quicker and to add terminator animation u already agreed to add life steal before the cheese it's, also my last post was in self defense bc bro literally assulted me

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Basically, Matthew bribed me with Cheez-its to try lifesteal with medic. When Evan and I get to balancing classes we will try it. Bradley is probably right that it won't be balanceable, but medic has been unbalanced between team and solo capabilities so maybe lifesteal will solve that. As for getting admin, you keep trying to fight admins and discredit people...

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First of all, ur like the main antagonist of the tanks universe lol. In the past, you've constantly tried to get what you want in game despite other opinions, and when you are rightfully punished, you try to destroy the whole game. You're not very helpful.

(MY paragraph) bradley going to animea logic of good guy and bad guy again... the only reason why I would ignore an argument is if it is an invalid or biased opinion, let's talk about the admin abuse issue the reason for which I was punished, I tried to get everyone to agree to an anti admin abuse contract, evan and bradley wanting to keep admin for fun said no and I tried every option to get ot but one the last option was commonly known as phase 2 which would have worked but Aaron catching on to what it was got cold feet and agree to lift the punishment and work together on the admin abuse Co tract and to give my admin back after 2 weeks of "not bothering annyone" those 2 weeks are long gone but because LK and you and evan fighting he didn't want to make you any madder so I still don't have my admin, in reality are you not the main antagonist because you are the only person blocking me from getting what's mine, spamming bad ideas, and making everyone mad every week because you veto LK and my ideas to make evan happy?

Second, we removed passives, and we aren't adding a life steal perk. Life steal is usually op and is balanced by reducing the max hp, but we can't do that, so it would either be op or do like 2% healing and be useless.

(Me) 1 life steal yes would need balancing however the fact that for the most part it balances itself stands because a noob can't use it bc they need Shotgun skill also you could help maybe?

Third, no new features, and I'm against it, and Aaron is against everything I say, let alone a NEW feature that YOU created. Bad idea.

(Me) Bradley this is where you are flat out wrong, asked Aaron in person. While writing this anti bread spam issue and he said he still supports medic life steal PASSIVE, you were not against it in person so you are being biased to stay on Evans good side, if he is blackmailing u or something. Do what you did to me ignore it and move on. If you are doing it to stay his friend should you really have the power to vote, if you opinion is always biased

Finally, abilities that are meant to be focused around shotgunning effectively have proven to be bad abilities. When old warrior existed, it was really hard to balance: only +25% Dmg was bad, +50% Dmg was still bad, and annoying to play against, +25% defense was terrible, and +50% defense was super op. Ur idea is like the defense upgrades from old warrior, and if I have learned anything for that whole experience... NO MORE STUPID STAT BUFF INCREASES YOU FRICKING FLATTTTT.

(Me) is this a offensive buff? No, a defensive one ? No, how is this old warrior again? It's 'defensive' it's not its a combo of each that self nerfa with the amount of skill, it is not no skill where you hit f and take no dmg or press f and one shot, it is a weak passive that helps you stay close range and demotes flatting, this literally helps with everything, and you are opposed, wonder why (biased opinion as stated earlier) also insulting me using ad dominant is a logical fallacy proving that you arguement is invalid, so by nature by dictionary and by the fact that I disproved all of your points by the fact that you arguement was built on lies, you are wrong invalid and should shut up.

I rest my case

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Lol the outlook addons

[3foe]

Lol, ADD LIFE STEAL

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Lol the outlook addons

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Bradley there is no we, it's just you, you are lazy and you did read it and u knew it was true and there was no comeback so you went back to attacking

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not reading that I'm too lazy. can we just add all of the actual things so we can close?

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[cs6413110]

The only person attacking is you. Why do you always try to take low blows and cheap shots on those who disagree with you?

[3foe]

Not because he disagrees but because he has a biased opinion simply because of his freind.

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The only person attacking is you. Why do you always try to take low blows and cheap shots on those who disagree with you?

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[3foe]

Also I invited him to help or just stop being a hurt so... ye just defending whatbi want fromq biased moldy bread spam.

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Not because he disagrees but because he has a biased opinion simply because of his freind.

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The only person attacking is you. Why do you always try to take low blows and cheap shots on those who disagree with you?

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[cs6413110]

Your class?!?!? Oh boy. Your honor, the defendant is clearly lying as stated by these 4 different documents stating back to 2021 and prior stating that back in 8th grade when I first join the tonk crew and classes were being added, there were 2 bastions of strength among the newly emerging classes. Stealth and tactical. Their rivalry dates back to the dawn of modern pixel tanks. And one day, when there were plans to add 8 classes, a new one was born. Because I had a dream. A dream of a tank with a melee ability. But how could this be achieved? A tank can't melee it doesn't have legs to kick, much less arms to punch. But then I realized. Its a 200 ton box. It its the fist. Imagine a tank running into you at 90 mph. that outta hurt. And boost was already in the game at this time. So Warrior was created, with the ability to bash into enemies for a whopping 100 dmg per boost. And for the f ability we threw in a random damage buff cuz whatever. Since then warrior has been changed repeatedly to fit the balanced of the game set by the almighty-ly simple fire tank. And soon, it will achived.

also lifesteal bad and annoying. imagine doing damage and then healing off that damage, more importantly imagine fighting that. so annoying.

so in conclusion: shut flat + not rock and Stone of u + didn't ask + lag bye

I'm actually framing this on my wall. This made my month.

[3foe]

Lol, jot even brafley abuse made ur month

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Your class?!?!? Oh boy. Your honor, the defendant is clearly lying as stated by these 4 different documents stating back to 2021 and prior stating that back in 8th grade when I first join the tonk crew and classes were being added, there were 2 bastions of strength among the newly emerging classes. Stealth and tactical. Their rivalry dates back to the dawn of modern pixel tanks. And one day, when there were plans to add 8 classes, a new one was born. Because I had a dream. A dream of a tank with a melee ability. But how could this be achieved? A tank can't melee it doesn't have legs to kick, much less arms to punch. But then I realized. Its a 200 ton box. It its the fist. Imagine a tank running into you at 90 mph. that outta hurt. And boost was already in the game at this time. So Warrior was created, with the ability to bash into enemies for a whopping 100 dmg per boost. And for the f ability we threw in a random damage buff cuz whatever. Since then warrior has been changed repeatedly to fit the balanced of the game set by the almighty-ly simple fire tank. And soon, it will achived.

also lifesteal bad and annoying. imagine doing damage and then healing off that damage, more importantly imagine fighting that. so annoying.

so in conclusion: shut flat + not rock and Stone of u + didn't ask + lag bye

I'm actually framing this on my wall. This made my month.

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[3foe]

BREAD AND TOAST

nvm bread doesn't exist after that

[3foe]

so Aaron already said life steal will be added bradley this is what I said about you acting like you have power, please just stop you cannot stop it, also it will not replace medic it will be a passive medic has.

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[cs6413110]

I said I would try it when Evan and I work on classes. No guarentee of it actually making it into game tho.

[CelestialKnight7]

if we added a life steal class replacing medic, then it would just die like old warrior did. classes that entirely focus on shotgun combos, is a bad class, purely bc of flatting. Aaron has successfully denied every item/ability that would maybe stop ppl from just "running away'. 0 slowing abilities, 0 stun abilities. right now, unless the person ur fighting willingly accepts the shotgun fight, they can just move the other direction, and there is nothing u can do about it. if you grapple, they grapple, If you boost, they boost. although there are abilities like stealth and warrior that can catch up, if ur good at juking, that doesn't matter either with again, the lack of slows/stuns. this is especially bad with classes like fire, which punish ppl trying to shotgun, bc their fire boost stops you from chasing them without dying.the only class this is gud against is builder, and we don't need MORE counters. stop tryna add lifesteal. its not happening

SOR. Just BLCOK them. ye we nerfed it so if u get blocked u don't get absolutely destroyed but its still gud and prevents people from running away

[3foe]

ye revert hit priority

[3foe]

maybe make bullets spawn in the center of the tanks instead of the edge (don't say anything)

[3foe]

so here is everything that we need to do

things that need to be buffed: classes:

stealth add the stealth rework as suggested on the issue

tactical (it got op with key binds so we need to rework the active) NO land mines Aaron gets PTSD

medic 20 or 15% life steal passive items: spike needs to slow enemys

things that need to be nerfed:

classes:

warrior (remove the speed buff still has I frames and the damage but no speed boost)

builder (needs to be reworked regarding: turret hp/turret cd/turret stats(turn speed/aimbot/dmg/etc)) figure it out ig

items: evan said bomb but it only does 50 dmg smoke bomb obvious reasons

am I missing anything

[CelestialKnight7]

my balance idea

tactical: add aimbot passive ability (hold any attack option for 1 second, and them game will do calculations with the speed, and the enemy movement, to determine where to shoot it in order to aimbot)

stealth: add evan's energy thing

builder: gripplable turrets (only for the turret owner)

warrior: dmg nerf

medic: revert

fire: gud (I feel like its op but when I use it it's trash so idk lol)

blocks: fix hit priority (builder cant abuse as much bc no passive)

spike: add the slow, and make it so if u die, spikes die with you. (if op after that, increase CD)

reflect: remove invincibility (still reflects all bullets, but if u get hit point blank, still take damage) (also make it so reflected dynamites will auto explode)

usb: make it get removed on toolkit so u don't get nerfed forever lol

dyna: gud

bomb: honestly just remove. its like airstrike where it counters stuff, but worse, and doesn't provide gud utility if u aren't countering something with it. it's like bringing a water bucket instead of a bow to a mc duel. I say add the gernade item idea so dyna isn't the only DMG item

smoke: gud (if the new img bad then revert)

healing items: gud ig (they outshine other items, but they are kinda necessary to game, so idk)

airstrike: gud

switch the tactical up a bit where it only runs the calculation if ur holding down f(or whatever u set ur class keybind to) and it will only run the calculation for the mega missile) (aka what I put at the top for tactical buff) fine with everything but the bomb, im fine if we replace it but I don't want to replace it with another +100 dmg item. (and no supply crut)

[CelestialKnight7]

don't want grenade, just use dyna. Cmon we can come up with more ideas like smoke bomb or airstrike rather than more +(insert 100+ dmg amount here) items

[cs6413110]

Why more items

[CelestialKnight7]

thats a class level ability not item. gib more utility.

[3foe]

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2 not a perks thing keep perks on perks

3 aaron when u going to add my admin my collab and life steal

[CelestialKnight7]

teleporter class but as an item.