Closed ReubenDo closed 3 years ago
New version using the following path length definition:
Thank you for correcting the equation and for implementing a nice comparison method!!
One question regarding the equation: Is there a reason for keeping \lambda separate for the two terms? I prefer using a single \lambda and doing (1-\lambda) for the second term - this is in favour of keeping equation simpler and having one less hyper parameter to worry about. And we can still have purely euclidean or gradient or a linear combination of both. If this sounds good, then perhaps this equation can be updated to the following (unless if I am missing something important here):
Apart from this, all looks good to me.
Hi,
I agree that we could technically get rid of one parameter.
The main reason why I proposed to use two hyper-parameters instead of one is that for me the two parameters should be adapted for each new image based on different policies for l_grad and l_eucl.
For example, l_grad could be determined with a policy based on the image gradient (e.g., max, mean), while l_eucl could be determined using the size of the image, spacing etc. I agree that we could still rewrite the problem with one hyper-parameter but I just think that it's more likely that the two parameters are adapted independently.
Hi @ReubenDo ,
I am not sure if I properly understand the use case for that. What would be the range of l_grad, l_euc in that case? Isnt the aim of lambda to be used as "mixing" parameter which defines a linear combination of both? I dont know if I understand the case where these are independently weighing in the contributions.
There is no natural link between the two quantities, one is in mm while the second one is an image intensity difference. Given that images in a dataset may have different intensity distributions (due to different scanners, sequences, etc) and different image spacing, I think that the weighting process should be image-specific.
If the weighting process is image-specific, what could be a typical weighting policy per image? I would think that this weighting strategy should be for each quantity, as done here. Of course we can imagine many policies, but I think that most of them would try to "scale" each quantity.
Thanks for sharing the paper and further insights, it is an excellent use case. I skimmed through it and I believe you are referring to equation 2 with specific gamma parameters. It does feel appropriate for this equation to have separate scaling parameters as you are combining geodesic distance with network probabilities (hence scaling between 0 to 1).
(I did this quickly so I may be wrong on this) The image-specific case may still be addressable by a single lambda for mixing and an additional normalisation step to convert resulting image into probabilities. Lambda in this case would be:
Considering everything, I am happy to keep the separate lambdas as they allow your use case implementation to be straightforward. They can also be simplified into a single lambda through a simple python wrapper.
New version using the following path length definition:
Includes comparison with forked version of dijkstra3d