MATLAB Interface for NOAA Data-major issue

steveforczyk commented 2 years ago

I have been working with the API published in Matlab Central and there is a major problem with the code that retrieves some data annualTemperatureData = []; for y = 2015:2022 annualTemperatureData = [annualTemperatureData;getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-01-01")), ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-12-31")), ... stationid = "GHCND:SPE00119783", ... datatypeid = "TMAX", ... locationid = "FIPS:SP", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "metric")]; end

Temperature = annualTemperatureData.value; Date = datetime(annualTemperatureData.date); T = timetable(Date, Temperature); head(T)

specifically although the code should return the data for all 12 months of the year but generally no January data and very little data for Feb is returned. I checked a different site -namely stationidstr="GHCND:USW00003856"; which is the Huntsville,Alabama airport and found the same issue. Can not understand why this is happening!

cfletchg commented 2 years ago

I have contacted NOAA regarding this.

steveforczyk commented 2 years ago

Chris: Appreciate any help you can give me. To summarize the problem I can download data using this interface but the data for Jan and nearly all of Feb each month is missing. When I check the datasets on line in PDF format I can SEE the data for the missing months

From: "Chris Garvin" @.> To: "mathworks/noaa" @.> Cc: "Stephen M Forczyk" @.>, "Author" @.> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:14:27 PM Subject: Re: [mathworks/noaa] MATLAB Interface for NOAA Data-major issue (Issue #1)

I have contacted NOAA regarding this.

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cfletchg commented 2 years ago

Hi Stephen, I have verified that I can get other data for January and February to verify that those input dates are not causing an issue with the interface. I will post again when I hear from NOAA. I'm not sure how quickly they respond to queries on the API.

steveforczyk commented 2 years ago

Chris: I am glad of the quick response. Could you send me an example of this so I can try it out. I have attached a sample script. This is trying to get data from the Huntsville Airport Site. The key code is which is from lines 106-116 of the script. the station id is stationidstr= "GHCND:USW00003856" ;

I am running under R2022b for y = 2012:2019 annualTMAXData = [annualTMAXData;getdata(n, "GHCND" , ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y), "-01-01" )), ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y), "-12-31" )), ... stationid=stationidstr, ... datatypeid = "TMAX" , ... locationid = "FIPS:01" , ... limit = 1000, ... units = unitstr)]; end

Greatly appreciate any help you can give me. In understand this is now the holiday so I don't expect and immediate answer!!!

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Hi Stephen, I have verified that I can get other data for January and February to verify that those input dates are not causing an issue with the interface. I will post again when I hear from NOAA. I'm not sure how quickly they respond to queries on the API.

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cfletchg commented 2 years ago

Hi Stephen,

I verified that I can get January data for other datasets and datatype to make sure the interface wasn't having an issue with those date inputs. But I'm guessing that data won't be of much value to you.

I tried the following code to see what datatypes are available for that station and date range:

d = getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime("2022-01-01"), ... datetime("2022-02-28"), ... stationid = "GHCND:USW00003856", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "metric")

From here I looped through all of the datatypes. In each case there is only one data point, 02/28/2022, for each. I'm not sure why this is but I think it's because the API doesn't have any data for the other dates. I'm not sure why this is different from bulk data sets that you download.

for i = 1:length(d.datatype) d.datatype{i} getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime(strcat("2022","-01-01")), ... datetime(strcat("2022","-02-28")), ... stationid = "GHCND:USW00003856", ... datatypeid = "TMAX" , ... limit = 1000, ... units = "metric") end

I don't have clarification from NOAA on this.

Chris

steveforczyk commented 2 years ago

Chris: You have captured part of the problem. When I look at the datasheets online there is data for every day and Jan and Feb for that site but the getdata command is only returning data from Feb 28 through the end of the year. I will try some other airport sites to see if I hit a ringer. Note that this was tru over the 2012 through 2019 period. We are ultimately try to get a large collection of data to look at warming trends so I sure hate to miss 2 months of data per year. Let me know if you find a work around. FYI I also tried a Python solution to the download-same damn problem so I don't really think it is a problem with the Matlab implementation. I am extensively using data from the GOES platform without any serious problems but I want some ground truth and also want data from regions outside the GOES coverage area.

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Hi Stephen,

I verified that I can get January data for other datasets and datatype to make sure the interface wasn't having an issue with those date inputs. But I'm guessing that data won't be of much value to you.

I tried the following code to see what datatypes are available for that station and date range:

d = getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime("2022-01-01"), ... datetime("2022-02-28"), ... stationid = "GHCND:USW00003856", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "metric")

From here I looped through all of the datatypes. In each case there is only one data point, 02/28/2022, for each. I'm not sure why this is but I think it's because the API doesn't have any data for the other dates. I'm not sure why this is different from bulk data sets that you download.

for i = 1:length(d.datatype) d.datatype{i} getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime(strcat("2022","-01-01")), ... datetime(strcat("2022","-02-28")), ... stationid = "GHCND:USW00003856", ... datatypeid = "TMAX" , ... limit = 1000, ... units = "metric") end

I don't have clarification from NOAA on this.

Chris

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cfletchg commented 2 years ago

I will let you know if I learn of a workaround or get any information from NOAA

steveforczyk commented 2 years ago

Chris: I am going to try to download data from a few more airport sites. If I get the result at multiple sites that would support the notion that something is wrong in the calling sequence

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I will let you know if I learn of a workaround or get any information from NOAA

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cfletchg commented 2 years ago

I received confirmation from NOAA today that they are aware of the missing data issue and working to address it.

steveforczyk commented 2 years ago

Chris: Thanks for the update. It felt like I was beating my head against the wall. We are using the data for global climate studies (it is just one source) so it is annoying to get only 10 months out of 12 !

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behroozdaneshian commented 1 year ago

Hello all, I still have a problem with extracting daily temperature data for a desired year range(e.g., 2006 to 2012) for a given station ("GHCND:SPE00119783"). The problem is that the created table(annualTemperatureData) does not include data from January 1 to February 28. I have checked the CSV file for this station and data exist for the mentioned time interval. Does anyone know how we can deal with that? I used the following code for that. annualTemperatureData = []; for y = 2006:2012 annualTemperatureData = [annualTemperatureData;getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-01-01")), ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-12-31")), ... stationid = "GHCND:SPE00119783", ... datatypeid = "TAVG", ... locationid = "FIPS:SP", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "standard")]; end

cfletchg commented 1 year ago

Hello Behrooz,

NOAA is aware of the issue where the data for January and February is missing and they are working on it. No updates as of yet.

Chris

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Hello all, I still have a problem with extracting daily temperature data for a desired year range(e.g., 2006 to 2012) for a given station ("GHCND:SPE00119783"). The problem is that the created table(annualTemperatureData) does not include data from January 1 to February 28. I have checked the CSV file for this station and data exist for the mentioned time interval. Does anyone know how we can deal with that? I used the following code for that. annualTemperatureData = []; for y = 2006:2012 annualTemperatureData = [annualTemperatureData;getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-01-01")), ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-12-31")), ... stationid = "GHCND:SPE00119783", ... datatypeid = "TAVG", ... locationid = "FIPS:SP", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "standard")]; end

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steveforczyk commented 1 year ago

Thanks for keeping me in the loop

From: "Chris Garvin" @.> To: "mathworks/noaa" @.> Cc: "Stephen M Forczyk" @.>, "Author" @.> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 8:06:14 AM Subject: Re: [mathworks/noaa] MATLAB Interface for NOAA Data-major issue (Issue #1)

Hello Behrooz,

NOAA is aware of the issue where the data for January and February is missing and they are working on it. No updates as of yet.

Chris

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Hello all, I still have a problem with extracting daily temperature data for a desired year range(e.g., 2006 to 2012) for a given station ("GHCND:SPE00119783"). The problem is that the created table(annualTemperatureData) does not include data from January 1 to February 28 . I have checked the CSV file for this station and data exist for the mentioned time interval. Does anyone know how we can deal with that? I used the following code for that. annualTemperatureData = []; for y = 2006:2012 annualTemperatureData = [annualTemperatureData;getdata(n,"GHCND", ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-01-01")), ... datetime(strcat(num2str(y),"-12-31")), ... stationid = "GHCND:SPE00119783", ... datatypeid = "TAVG", ... locationid = "FIPS:SP", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "standard")]; end

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behroozdaneshian commented 1 year ago

Oh my god, so the problem is at the source. Can anyone suggest another way to extract January and February data?

steveforczyk commented 1 year ago

Yes I believe it is in the interface. FYI I also used a Python script to extract the data and it worked but you guessed it no Jan or Feb data until Feb 28. Since the problem occured in using Python or Matlab it seems to be at the next higher level

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Oh my god, so the problem is at the source. Can anyone suggest another way to extract January and February data?

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cfletchg commented 1 year ago

Apparently, NOAA has a new API available with different endpoints that will address this data issue. I’m investigating but it looks different enough that it cannot just be dropped into the existing interface.

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Yes I believe it is in the interface. FYI I also used a Python script to extract the data and it worked but you guessed it no Jan or Feb data until Feb 28. Since the problem occured in using Python or Matlab it seems to be at the next higher level

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Oh my god, so the problem is at the source. Can anyone suggest another way to extract January and February data?

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behroozdaneshian commented 1 year ago

I sent them an email regarding this issue, and they told me we are working on API to tackle it. They also suggest v1 API using this URL: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access-search#access-apis However, I could not figure it out.

cfletchg commented 1 year ago

Hopefully, they will address it in the existing API but I’m not sure they are going to. If you know the V1 URL you need, you can access it with webread. But I’m investigating the V1 API as I said.

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steveforczyk commented 1 year ago

Chris: I appreciate any help I can get. I have many other irons in the fire at the moment so I can put this one aside for the moment. I wanted the ground station data as a truth check for some of the satellite data I work with all the time. I am a trust but verify kind of guy!

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Hopefully, they will address it in the existing API but I’m not sure they are going to. If you know the V1 URL you need, you can access it with webread. But I’m investigating the V1 API as I said.

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cfletchg commented 1 year ago

I’ve been looking at what I’ll call the NCEI V1 API. I’ll refer to the API that the MATLAB interface is based on as NOAA V2 API.

The NCEI V1 API has a different approach. To request data, you need to know things like the station and boundingBox (location) inputs for your request. The NOAA V2 API allowed one to search for all available stations and locations id’s whereas the NCEI V1 API does not. One can extract things like stations if they know which dataset and optionally which datatype they want. And this type of request takes some post processing of the data which could potentially be “buggy” if some type of unexpected data structure is returned.

For the NCEI V1 API, the current easiest way to request data looks something like this

options = weboptions("Timeout",200) webread(https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/services/data/v1?dataset=daily-summaries&dataTypes=TAVG&stations=USW00014607&startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2023-01-01&boundingBox=90,-180,-90,180,options)

You can see that the dataset, dataTypes, stations, date range and boundingBox are specified. The NOAA V2 API takes the same types of inputs but has a more generalized search mechanism to find these. Granted, one still has to know what the stations, for example, refer to.

It’s similar to the noaa getdata call in MATLAB:

getdata(n,"GHCND", datetime("2022-01-01")), datetime("2023-01-01")), ... stationid = "GHCND:SPE00119783", ... datatypeid = "TAVG", ... locationid = "FIPS:SP", ... limit = 1000, ... units = "metric")];

except that the station id is a different format and the locationid is not used.

And I’m unclear so far on how boundingBox is mapped to the V2 location id’s. NCEI V1 API doesn’t appear to have any holes in the data though.

So not much of an answer so far but this is where I am and not sure where it will lead.

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Chris: I appreciate any help I can get. I have many other irons in the fire at the moment so I can put this one aside for the moment. I wanted the ground station data as a truth check for some of the satellite data I work with all the time. I am a trust but verify kind of guy!

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Hopefully, they will address it in the existing API but I’m not sure they are going to. If you know the V1 URL you need, you can access it with webread. But I’m investigating the V1 API as I said.

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steveforczyk commented 1 year ago

Chris: Thanks for the update. Is there an available Matlab interface based on the V1 API?

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