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Data.table being sidelined by Rstudio? #16

Open IyarLin opened 5 years ago

IyarLin commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the great write up, it surely provided some food for thought.

I have a question though:Under language unity you write:

"For instance, consider the lightning-fast data.table package. Rather than welcoming it as a hugely valuable contribution to R, RStudio has treated it as a competitor, downplaying it and promoting their own product, dplyr. This is simply not healthy for an open-source language."

I wonder if you could give examples or elaborate on that. I've actually seen some evidence to the contrary in the dtplyr package which is actively being developed by Hadley Wickham and is designed to integrate both packages.

matloff commented 5 years ago

As I said in the Twitter discussion, there is a lot of private information here, which I won't get into. But RS' getting into dtplyr came later. The problem was at its worst in earlier years, but even today is still with us.

dselivanov commented 5 years ago

@IyarLin this is well known fact which is carefully hided nowadays. And no public excuse was made. But we remember and didn't forgive.