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[1.7.10] Heat Generator not producing no where near the same amount of power as before. #4697

Closed llloyd4 closed 7 years ago

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago

Right, let me throw this out there, this is for an older, probably unsupported, version of Mekanism, but, I can at least ask and hope for the best. >.< I seem to remember, in 1.7.10, that a tower of 8 Mekanism Heat Generators producing 80 RF a tick if all 8 were surrounded by lava on 5 sides. I've been playing an old 1.7.10 pack (made up a pack though the Twitch Client) and I am finding the old trick isn't working any more. O.o Each generator is only putting out 1.5 ish RF a tick with 5 sides of lava. I double checked and, yeah, lava source blocks on 5 sides of each one. Under, three sides, and top. Did you nerf it or am I being a derp and my memory is full of swiss cheese? >.<

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Forge: 10.13.4.1614 Mekanism: 1.7.10-9.1.1.1031 Other relevant version:

thiakil commented 7 years ago

It appears to be a config option. heatGenerationLava should be it.

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago

Hmm... 5, presumably 5 J , and the wiki says '1 RF = 0,1 MJ = 2,5 J = 0,25 EU ' '

So, in theory, it should be making 2 rf a tick, if I want it 10 like the old days, that would be 25 J I'll have to give that a poke. As I checked, even Vaygrim said a tower of 8 should produce 80, or 10 per - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLXSEasnfY&t=5m5s ...

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It appears to be a config option. heatGenerationLava should be it.

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thiakil commented 7 years ago

That's from a much much older version of Mekanism. Lots of things have changed.

See https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/commit/020d347ee3cc4ec4ce184d409a95e2dfa55ba139

As a summary: old 5 per side of lava new (1 per side of lava) x heatGenerationLava

The value is indeed in Mekanism J, which also may have changed, and you'd need to look at your config to determine the correct value, as any wiki may or may not be accurate.

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago

So 1 per side of lava is 5 if it's 5 sides x 5 that is default is 25 J, so assuming 2.5J per RF is true, 25 J / 2.5 is 10, unless something is going whistling over my head. O.o At 5 it's producing 1.5 ish RF/t with 5 lava blocks on 5 of the sides. Currently I have it set to 20 and it's producing 39.99 J or 15.98 RF/t, 39.99 / 15.98 is 2.5, so that's confirmed. But I don't get the above, 5x20 is 100, yet it's only making 40. I can provide pics of my setup, you'll see 5 sides have lava, the core is where the Energy Conduit runs up.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Xander notifications@github.com wrote:

That's from a much much older version of Mekanism. Lots of things have changed.

See 020d347 https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/commit/020d347ee3cc4ec4ce184d409a95e2dfa55ba139

As a summary: old 5 per side of lava new (1 per side of lava) x heatGenerationLava

The value is indeed in Mekanism J, which also may have changed, and you'd need to look at your config to determine the correct value, as any wiki may or may not be accurate.

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thiakil commented 7 years ago

assuming 2.5J per RF is true

Is that what your config says?

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago 
D:JoulesToEU=10.0
D:JoulesToRF=2.5

Looks like it?

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assuming 2.5J per RF is true

Is that what your config says?

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thiakil commented 7 years ago

IIRC the calculations are always multiplications. That's why there are both from and to values in the config (at least in modern MC versions)

Did you restart after changing the config?

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago

Yeap, I closed out Minecraft then once the new config was saved I restarted Minecraft.

The magic number appears to be 15, that's 24.97 J/t or 9.98 RF/t .

2017-09-18_03 09 15

2017-09-18_03 11 11

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IIRC the calculations are always multiplications. That's why there are both from and to values in the config (at least in modern MC versions)

Did you restart after changing the config?

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thiakil commented 7 years ago

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thiakil commented 7 years ago

hahaha don't know why that one never copy pastes properly

tomelfring commented 7 years ago

Escape characters ;) \ is a special character and escapes stuff

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago

Guess it is a bug but one that'll never get fixed? Or is 5J per side wrong? O.o

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thiakil commented 7 years ago

As I said before, the code says 1 x sides with lava x heatGenerationLava in Mekanism J. I don't particularly care about how much RF that translates to, as that's a separate issue.

If the formula does not hold true we will check it on current versions, but quite unlikely to get fixed on 1.7

llloyd4 commented 7 years ago

Doesn't seem to be. 5 x 15 should be 75 j and I am not getting that. So... And, yeah, I kinda figured it was not gonna get fixed.

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As I said before, the code says 1 x sides with lava x heatGenerationLava in Mekanism J. I don't particularly care about how much RF that translates to, as that's a separate issue.

If the formula does not hold true we will check it on current versions, but quite unlikely to get fixed on 1.7

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